Florio: Haley threatened to trade Bowe during Redskins game

[OnTheWarpath15]

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Trade threat turned the light on for Dwayne Bowe
Posted by Mike Florio on October 19, 2009 3:05 PM ET

As pointed out in the Chiefs-Redskins portion our Morning Aftermath, Kansas City receiver Dwayne Bowe caught six passes for 109 yards. It was his best output of the season.

Bowe's performance came at a time when rumors are rampant that he (and pretty much any other Chiefs player not named "Matt Cassel") is available as the trade deadline looms.

So was he motivated by the rumors? As it turns out, no.

Bowe was motivated by a specific threat, from coach Todd Haley.

Per a league source, Haley tore into Bowe early in Sunday's win over the Redskins, urging Bowe to pick up his game and threatening to trade Bowe if he didn't.

Though some might have seen it as a chance to get over the wall and head to a contending team, the exchange seemed to light a fire under Bowe.

So we suppose it would be fitting if the performance prompts a team like the Dolphins or Ravens to make the Chiefs an offer for Bowe that G.M. Scott Pioli accepts.

WTF?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Honest question.

Have there ever been reports of Belichick threatening to trade his best player in the middle of the game?

Are there numerous heated exchanges between Belichick and his QBs during every game?

Belichick does it different but he still will try to embarrass players to motivate them.

Go read what Tony G said about playing in the freaking Pro Bowl and he missed a block and when he was walking back to the sidelines Belichick said "nice ****ing block Gonzalez". The next time on ST's he made a good block and Belichick just ignored him. Message received.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

By the simple fact that both are uncontested starters.

Who says that they haven't been contested? There's no facts to support that.

PhilFree

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by philfree

Who says that they haven't been contested? There's no facts to support that.

PhilFree

Wade Smith can play center, right guard and now left tackle at a high level.

Why hasn't he been a starter at center, right guard or right tackle since the beginning of training camp?

I guarantee you beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's more athletic and better suited to be on the field than Niswanger, Goff, Nsuckwe or O'C.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Belichick does it different but he still will try to embarrass players to motivate them.

Go read what Tony G said about playing in the freaking Pro Bowl and he missed a block and when he was walking back to the sidelines Belichick said "nice ****ing block Gonzalez". The next time on ST's he made a good block and Belichick just ignored him. Message received.

I'm sorry, but this is no where on the same level as what we're talking about. I have no problem with Haley doing this, which he does all the time. However, that is much different than flying off the handle and threatening to trade your best player.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So, **** the 45 guys that show no promise, and just coach up the handful that do.

Sounds like a winning strategy.

WHY waste time and energy on guys that they KNOW wont be here next year? hell maybe even next WEEK

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

WHY waste time and energy on guys that they KNOW wont be here next year? hell maybe even next WEEK

Then why even suit up and play, Jason?

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So then why do Niswanger and Goff get a pass?

Who is going to replace them? They all suck.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

WHY waste time and energy on guys that they KNOW wont be here next year? hell maybe even next WEEK

When those guys are starters, and are in many ways responsible for the success of the guys he is constantly blasting or threatening to trade, yeah I think he should "waste that time and energy."

[philfree]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wade Smith can play center, right guard and now left tackle at a high level.

Why hasn't he been a starter at center, right guard or right tackle since the beginning of training camp?

I guarantee you beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's more athletic and better suited to be on the field than Niswanger, Goff, Nsuckwe or O'C.

Maybe you and the HC don't hold the same opinions about these guys. And maybe because Smith is such a utility guy his job is to back up several positions. As far as a high level is concerned let's not get carried away. How many times did Cassel get sacked yesterday? It does seem however, that our line blocks better with Smith playing LT instead of Albert. Maybe Haley should bench Albert for Smith?

PhilFree

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

WHY waste time and energy on guys that they KNOW wont be here next year? hell maybe even next WEEK

To try to win games?

To try to keep your $63M QB alive?

And personally, I'd like to know how Haley, Pioli or anyone else can tell me that Morgan, as an example won't be here this year, when he hasn't been given a chance to play?

Meanwhile, Mike Brown is playing at a level that makes Pollard look like a ****ing Pro Bowler.

Some of these guys have to be here next year. You're not going to turn over 45 guys on this roster in one offseason.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by doomy3

When those guys are starters, and are in many ways responsible for the success of the guys he is constantly blasting or threatening to trade, yeah I think he should "waste that time and energy."

This.

Haley's job is to get the most out of every player that dresses on Sunday, not just a select few.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then why even suit up and play, Jason?

probably the millions of dollars they are getting paid.

[LaChapelle]

With this many posts I would assume there is a lot of this going on

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by philfree

Maybe you and the HC don't hold the same opinions about these guys.

And therein lies the problem. With Alleman on the field last week in place of Goof, the offensive line opened running lanes that hadn't been there before. Niswanger gets a complete pass, while he sucks it up on each and every series.

Anyone who watches the Chiefs immediately noticed the difference.

Originally Posted by philfree

And maybe because Smith is such a utility guy his job is to back up several positions.

If your "utility" player is better than your starter, you're in trouble.

Ooops...

Originally Posted by philfree

As far as a high level is concerned let's not get carried away. How many times did Cassel get sacked yesterday? It does seem however, that our line blocks better with Smith playing LT instead of Albert. Maybe Haley should bench Albert for Smith?

PhilFree

He plays at a much higher level than Niswanger, Goof or O'C. He didn't take all reps with the first team since OTA's, yet he's played very respectfully considering that.

Why isn't he on the field as a starter somewhere? Get your best players on the field, all the time.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

To try to win games?

To try to keep your $63M QB alive?

And personally, I'd like to know how Haley, Pioli or anyone else can tell me that Morgan, as an example won't be here this year, when he hasn't been given a chance to play?

Meanwhile, Mike Brown is playing at a level that makes Pollard look like a ****ing Pro Bowler.

Some of these guys have to be here next year. You're not going to turn over 45 guys on this roster in one offseason.

hey i dont know the "WHY" just pay attention. when some guys **** up they arent gotten on to. bowe and cassel are. why? they are the building blocks of this team. most other guys will be gone in the next year or two, again maybe in a week.