Chiefs Getting The Band Back Together - Page 12

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-06-2010, 07:08 PM

Exact words from The Doug Gottlieb Show about Pioli's proclivity for hiring guys from "The Tree".

It's also a tried and true method in the NFL over the last couple of decades. Let's take a look at how getting the band back together worked out.

Walsh, Bill. Almost single-handedly built the 49er Dynasty. Was lured back to SF from 1999-2001 as GM. The team experienced moderate success over this time, going 12-4 in 2001, but not winning a playoff game during his tenure.

Vermeil, Dick. Tried to rebuild the '99 Rams with the 2001-2005 Chiefs. Had 2/5 winning seasons and a winning record overall, but never won a playoff game.

Holmgren, Mike. Assumed full control of the Seahawks after leaving GB. Even traded for his old backup QB in the process. Although the team achieved a SB berth, this was after Holmgren had been stripped of his GM duties in 2002, and Bob Ferguson took over.

Policy, Carmen. Former "Executive of the Year" from SF was lured to rebuild the Cleveland Browns. Installed former SF Buddy Dwight Clark as GM. Crashed and burned like the ****ing Hindenburg.

Johnson, Jimmy. The man who built the 90's Cowboys was charged with building the late 90's Dolphins into something Shula couldn't for the last 25 years--a SB champion. Johnson brought in his old assistants towards the end (Wannstedt) but could never match the success he had in Dallas. Ended his tenure with a 62 point ass raping from the Jags.

talastan · 01-07-2010, 04:23 PM

Looks like we're waiting on Crennel. He's coaching the Shrine East-West game. Good chance to scout some college talent?

http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1182

salame · 01-08-2010, 03:20 AM

The best thing about the weis hire is that he is going to install the exact same offense gailey installed that todd haley un-installed right before the season
lol

**BossChief** · 01-08-2010, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by salame

The best thing about the weis hire is that he is going to install the exact same offense gailey installed that todd haley un-installed right before the season
lol

All three offenses are a variation of the perkins erdhart system that they all run. Its just a matter of the variation of it they choose to play. I think Haley just didnt want to build an offense primarily around the shotgun.

The real difference in what Gailey was doing and what Charlie does is the shotgun, other than that the offense is very similar.

Hootie · 01-08-2010, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

And Belichick has never won a Super Bowl without Weis and Crennel.

You can play the "what if" game all you like.

That's true...

keg in kc · 01-08-2010, 05:19 AM

There's a pretty major difference between Gailey and Weis. Gailey likes his offenses to run the ball, and Weis likes them to throw it. Which is a lot closer to Haley's MO. The idea that Weis is going to install a system like Gailey did is probably 180 degrees from reality.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-08-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

There's a pretty major difference between Gailey and Weis. Gailey likes his offenses to run the ball, and Weis likes them to throw it. Which is a lot closer to Haley's MO. The idea that Weis is going to install a system like Gailey did is probably 180 degrees from reality.

It is.

Gailey's offenses ran to set up the pass. Weis's offense pass to set up the run.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-08-2010, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

I still hold to my belief that they got a STEAL in Mendenhall at that point...

looking back, I may have underestimated Chris Johnson... but I also think he benifits enormously by having Vince Young as a running threat in the backfield...

That said.. Mendenhall is proving to be a far better back than McFadden or Jones. Personally, I'd rather have him over Rice, Stewart or Forte as well.

You'd rather Mendenhall over Jonathan Stewart and Ray Rice?

That's just ****ing lunacy. Jonathan Stewart, if he was a full-time starter is an instant top 5 back in this league. The guy is a complete monster.

Mendenhall hasn't showed anything close to that.

**AustinChief** · 01-08-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

You'd rather Mendenhall over Jonathan Stewart and Ray Rice?

That's just ****ing lunacy. Jonathan Stewart, if he was a full-time starter is an instant top 5 back in this league. The guy is a complete monster.

Mendenhall hasn't showed anything close to that.

I disagree. I think Mendenhall is the best ALL AROUND back of that bunch.. great hands , better blocker and a solid runner.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-08-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

I still hold to my belief that they got a STEAL in Mendenhall at that point...

looking back, I may have underestimated Chris Johnson... but I also think he benifits enormously by having Vince Young as a running threat in the backfield...

That said.. Mendenhall is proving to be a far better back than McFadden or Jones. Personally, I'd rather have him over Rice, Stewart or Forte as well.

I agree with you. I thought Mendenhall was the #1 back in the draft that year.

Titty Meat · 01-08-2010, 01:43 PM

Does anyone know if there will be a press confrence introducing Weis? I'll just throw this out there if there was and it's delayed wouldn't that be a good indication that the Chiefs will introduce Weis & Crennel?

Brock · 01-08-2010, 01:44 PM

I don't think they're going to get Crennel.

Sure-Oz · 01-08-2010, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay

Does anyone know if there will be a press confrence introducing Weis? I'll just throw this out there if there was and it's delayed wouldn't that be a good indication that the Chiefs will introduce Weis & Crennel?

This isn't wrestling, like hulk hogan turning heel and forming with the nWo

Archie Bunker · 01-08-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Does anyone know if there will be a press confrence introducing Weis? I'll just throw this out there if there was and it's delayed wouldn't that be a good indication that the Chiefs will introduce Weis & Crennel?

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2010/01...se_for_croyle/

WEIS SPEAKS
January 8th – 1:26 PM

The Chiefs will not hold an introductory press conference for new offensive coordinator Charlie Weis, but head coach Todd Haley did join Weis on a conference call with members of the media. Have a listen to what Haley and Weis had to say right here.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-08-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2010/01...se_for_croyle/

WEIS SPEAKS
January 8th – 1:26 PM

The Chiefs will not hold an introductory press conference for new offensive coordinator Charlie Weis, but head coach Todd Haley did join Weis on a conference call with members of the media. Have a listen to what Haley and Weis had to say right here.

Why are they hiding him?

Chiefnj2 · 01-08-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It is.

Gailey's offenses ran to set up the pass. Weis's offense pass to set up the run.

He ran the ball a lot with the Jets.

01-06-2010, 07:08 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Getting The Band Back Together Exact words from The Doug Gottlieb Show about Pioli's proclivity for hiring guys from "The Tree". It's also a tried and true method in the NFL over the last couple of decades. Let's take a look at how getting the band back together worked out. Walsh, Bill. Almost single-handedly built the 49er Dynasty. Was lured back to SF from 1999-2001 as GM. The team experienced moderate success over this time, going 12-4 in 2001, but not winning a playoff game during his tenure. Vermeil, Dick. Tried to rebuild the '99 Rams with the 2001-2005 Chiefs. Had 2/5 winning seasons and a winning record overall, but never won a playoff game. Holmgren, Mike. Assumed full control of the Seahawks after leaving GB. Even traded for his old backup QB in the process. Although the team achieved a SB berth, this was after Holmgren had been stripped of his GM duties in 2002, and Bob Ferguson took over. Policy, Carmen. Former "Executive of the Year" from SF was lured to rebuild the Cleveland Browns. Installed former SF Buddy Dwight Clark as GM. Crashed and burned like the ****ing Hindenburg. Johnson, Jimmy. The man who built the 90's Cowboys was charged with building the late 90's Dolphins into something Shula couldn't for the last 25 years--a SB champion. Johnson brought in his old assistants towards the end (Wannstedt) but could never match the success he had in Dallas. Ended his tenure with a 62 point ass raping from the Jags.
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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	There's a pretty major difference between Gailey and Weis. Gailey likes his offenses to run the ball, and Weis likes them to throw it. Which is a lot closer to Haley's MO. The idea that Weis is going to install a system like Gailey did is probably 180 degrees from reality.
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