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Old 10-17-2010, 02:02 PM  
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Don't blame the refs
Our defense was absolute horrendous shit.

And we don't have a championship quarterback. We have a ****ing choke artist.
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:24 PM   #166
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Funny how the Refs in the Dallas game disagree, ain't it?
It's not the same ****ing play this has been covered 5 times now.

Austin did a full on straight arm in which the CB fell down, Flowers and Johnson hand fought, there were no straight arms or anyone falling down.

The plays aren't really comparable, what Austin did was extremely blatant, Johnson pushed off in a very concealed way.
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:24 PM   #167
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:25 PM   #168
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Funny how the Refs in the Dallas game disagree, ain't it?
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:25 PM   #169
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I expect this from Pete, but not from you.

That's not OPI. It's just not. The contact was minimal, and both player were handfighting the entire length of the route.

An elite WR made a great play on solid coverage.

That play isn't the reason we lost.

The refs aren't the reason we lost.

We lost because Schaub had all ****ing day to throw, and because the offense couldn't finish the job when they were needed most.
We lost for several reasons including the Refs. To ignore their part in the game as well as the shit play call on 3rd and 2 and the failed pooch KO etc....is a failure to look at the whole game in context.

The thingis you could say we beat ourselves again which is correctable. So let's look at it like that.
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:26 PM   #170
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The thing that concerns me about that play is Flowers was more concerned with getting the call than finishing the play.
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:26 PM   #171
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It's not the same ****ing play this has been covered 5 times now.

Austin did a full on straight arm in which the CB fell down, Flowers and Johnson hand fought, there were no straight arms or anyone falling down.

The plays aren't really comparable, what Austin did was extremely blatant, Johnson pushed off in a very concealed way.
Yeah, the shove on the back never happened. Even though we can clearly see it we will pretend it didn't happen. Oh, I am sorry, we will claim it to be "concealed".
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:27 PM   #172
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The thing that concerns me about that play is Flowers was more concerned with getting the call than finishing the play.
He caught it and ran out of bounds. What was to finish?
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:27 PM   #173
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It's not the same ****ing play this has been covered 5 times now.

Austin did a full on straight arm in which the CB fell down, Flowers and Johnson hand fought, there were no straight arms or anyone falling down.

The plays aren't really comparable, what Austin did was extremely blatant, Johnson pushed off in a very concealed way.
I think calling it hand fighting is a bit of an embellishement.

A DB is never going to get that call, though.
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:28 PM   #174
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Yeah, the shove on the back never happened. Even though we can clearly see it we will pretend it didn't happen. Oh, I am sorry, we will claim it to be "concealed".
The difference in Andre Johnson using his forearm to slightly move Flowers forward and Austin busting out a straight arm is the difference in a PI being called and not called in the NFL.
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:28 PM   #175
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The difference in Andre Johnson using his forearm to slightly move Flowers forward and Austin busting out a straight arm is the difference in a PI being called and not called in the NFL.
Ah, ok, so it's ok to shove but not really. I get it.
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Old 10-17-2010, 03:28 PM   #176
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im sorry but, we got ****ed plain and simple. It was a clear push in the back.
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Ah, ok, so it's ok to shove but not really. I get it.
How long have you been watching football? Are you not aware that all WR's do this to seperate? It's a matter of what you can and can't get away with, what Johnson did has become an acceptable move what Austin did, hasn't. If you straight your arm like that you'll always get a penalty.
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Ah, ok, so it's ok to shove but not really. I get it.
No, Pete. You don't get it. You never have.

You just move from Royals to Chiefs, Chiefs to Royals, whining about the refs.

Rinse, repeat.
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He caught it and ran out of bounds. What was to finish?
Johnson hadn't even caught the ball before he started jawing to the ref.
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No, Pete. You don't get it. You never have.

You just move from Royals to Chiefs, Chiefs to Royals, whining about the refs.

Rinse, repeat.
It blows my mind that this is even an argument, anyone who has watched any amount of football knows what gets called and what doesn't.
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