Why does everybody think the Chargers are so damn good?

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Every year, everybody on earth predicts the Chargers will be 14-2 or 13-3 and go to the AFC championship game and/or Super Bowl. Every year, they continue to suck and disappoint.

This year, they had no major offseason acquisitions, they are coming of a 9-7 non-playoff year despite an easy schedule, and they appear to have a much tougher schedule this year. 7 out of 7 NFL.com "experts" predict they will win the division, which may not be a huge stretch, but you would think at least one soul might pick the defending champion Chiefs.

But the icing on the cake is that the latest NFL.com poll asks, "which team do you think will win Super Bowl XLIV?" Our choices? Packers, Saints, Patriots, or Chargers. The defending AFC-champion Steelers are not even a choice. The Eagles, who had one of the greatest off-seasons in NFL history, are not even a choice. Even the media loverboy Jets are not even a choice.

The Chargers are clearly one of the best 4 teams in the NFL? Even though they couldn't even win the second weakest division in all of football last year with a cake schedule? Even though they lost to the Seahawks, Raiders, Rams, Raiders again, and the Bengals, arguably the worst team in football last year?

What, my friends, is so damn impressive about the San Diego Chargers?

[Gadzooks]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

On every team there is a core group of players. When those Core group of players leave, get old, get injured, etc they are typically replaced with another good core set of players. Chargers have done a shit job at that lately.

AJ and co have done a shit job recently. Everyone in this city is screaming for his head. If he had been replenishing his depth you guys wouldn't have had the ST melt down that you had last season.

When this team was in its prime its core Players were:


Tomlinson
Rivers
Merriman
Jamaal Williams
Gates
V. Jax
Jammer
Osgood


Larry English was suppose to be Merriman's replacement and he's been a bust. He's usually injured, and when he actually takes the field he has no impact on the game. I doubt he even makes the team next season.

Matthews was suppose to replace Tomlinson. So far all he has shown is that he's injury prone and fumble prone. Dude showed up to camp way out of shape after skipping team workouts. He can't even win the starting job.

You have no one on the roster to replace Gates, and that horse is wearing down quickly.

You have no one on the roster to Replace V Jax who is almost certainly gone after this season.

You let your best ST player in Osgood go and still haven't found a replacement.

Sanders and Spikes are a stop gap. They've been trying to address the safety position for years and haven't been able to do it. Hence the Sanders signing and overpaying for Weddle.

So who are the Chargers, young, ascending core group of Players? Are they as good as the previous group? If not, they're descending.

Out of the 8 “Core players” you listed they still have 4 on the roster.
Here's who isn't:
Osgood - shouldn't be on the list. He sure is tearing it up in Jacksonville…His speed in kick coverage will be replaced this year by Richard Goodman.

Williams - Replaced by Antonio Garay who happened to be a ****in' beast last season. Of course he is backed up by the greatest player ever drafted: Cam Thomas


Merriman - Well that's still up in the air with English's health but the Chargers D-line will put more pressure up the middle than they have for the past decade. Corey Liuget and Vaughn Martin have been awesome this preseason. (Liuget's the first rounder and Martin's the Canadian project that's finally coming through)

Tomlinson - Norf changed the offense to adapt to the rising Rivers and declining LT by making the O more pass happy. They also happen to have, the bowling ball, Tolbert and, LT wannabe, Mathews. That combo is much better than a declining LT.

VJax and Gates are great weapons but the offense doesn’t skip a beat when they're out.

The Chiefs are ****ed this year because the Chargers are, in fact, ascending.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Out of the 8 “Core players” you listed they still have 4 on the roster.
Here's who isn't:
Osgood - shouldn't be on the list. He sure is tearing it up in Jacksonville…His speed in kick coverage will be replaced this year by Richard Goodman.

Williams - Replaced by Antonio Garay who happened to be a ****in' beast last season. Of course he is backed up by the greatest player ever drafted: Cam Thomas


Merriman - Well that's still up in the air with English's health but the Chargers D-line will put more pressure up the middle than they have for the past decade. Corey Liuget and Vaughn Martin have been awesome this preseason. (Liuget's the first rounder and Martin's the Canadian project that's finally coming through)

Tomlinson - Norf changed the offense to adapt to the rising Rivers and declining LT by making the O more pass happy. They also happen to have, the bowling ball, Tolbert and, LT wannabe, Mathews. That combo is much better than a declining LT.

VJax and Gates are great weapons but the offense doesn’t skip a beat when they're out.

The Chiefs are ****ed this year because the Chargers are, in fact, ascending.

Osgood was a special teams Ace. I can't believe you typed that with a straight face. His absence was CLEARLY missed.

Liuget has been getting his shit pushed in in the running game this preseason. He has Looked FAR from good. He looks like exactly what he is. A Rookie DE in a 3-4. Everytime I see him play I salivate. I know the Chiefs will run right at his ass.

Vjax will be gone next season and there is no one on that roster to step up and take his place. And you can't depend on Gates to finish a season. Who's behind him?

The Offense didn't miss a beat without them?

That's hilarious. Because whenever we talk about your 9-7 record, you Charger fans always blame it on the fact that you didn't have VJax and Gates.

Can't have it both ways patna.

It's ok. The team just doesn't have the talent on it that it had 3-4 years ago. DESCENDING.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by threebag02

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[Gadzooks]

Please see my responses below"

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Osgood was a special teams Ace. I can't believe you typed that with a straight face. His absence was CLEARLY missed.
Last year he was missed. This year will be a different story.
Liuget has been getting his shit pushed in the running game this preseason. He has Looked FAR from good. He looks like exactly what he is. A Rookie DE in a 3-4. Everytime I see him play I salivate. I know the Chiefs will run right at his ass.
You must have been reading that on the walls of the bathroom stalls. He's been very disruptive in the preseason
Vjax will be gone next season and there is no one on that roster to step up and take his place. And you can't depend on Gates to finish a season. Who's behind him? We would be getting into Charger minutia if I had to explain the plan. Either way, Rivers makes Chicken Salad out of Chicken Shit. Both players are great but they can be replaced. BTW - VJax can be tagged again if need be.

The Offense didn't miss a beat without them?

That's hilarious. Because whenever we talk about your 9-7 record, you Charger fans always blame it on the fact that you didn't have VJax and Gates.
I've never said that. I solely blame Special Teams. We acquired one of the top ST Coaches & the rule change helps.
ASCENDING!!!11!!!!

[whoman69]

They have Norv which by definition means they're descending.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

Wait, wha? How do you figure the Chargers are declining?!?
That’s preposterous.

Cause they won 9 games with an easy schedule last year? Cause they lost to the Cincinnati Bengals in a must-win game?

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by matthews1733

the chiefs fans are becoming delusional, just because they won the division last year by a fluke. they keep coming up with reason with why the chargers are declining (wishful thinking). While expert around the league unanimously pick the chargers to win the division they keep telling themselves eh we are better than the chargers. The chargers don't even think about KC, they go into the season planning to beat the Pats and the Steelers to get to the Super Bowl, KC not even in the back of their consciousness (the truth).

What an idiot.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by O.city

However as long as they have Rivers under center they are the class of the division.

No, they are not. They lost the division last year. You are not the class of the division when you lose the division.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

So, the Chargers have been mauled by the Patriots, beaten the awful, awful Vikings at home by 7 points, beaten the awful, awful Chiefs at home by 3 points, and beaten the awful, awful Dolphins at home by 10 points after their starting QB went out of the game with an injury.

I still don't see what's so special about them.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by thurman merman

So, the Chargers have been mauled by the Patriots, beaten the awful, awful Vikings at home by 7 points, beaten the awful, awful Chiefs at home by 3 points, and beaten the awful, awful Dolphins at home by 10 points after their starting QB went out of the game with an injury.

I still don't see what's so special about them.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Yeah, he's having a REALLY great year. He has made mincemeat of the great defenses of the Vikings, Patriots, Chiefs, and Dolphins.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

THE CHARGERS ARE SO GOOD AT FOOTBALL.

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"The Chargers are too cool for school." -- Steve Young

[Gadzooks]

You weren't posting this shit before the game. Classy, 'lil' big man.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Originally Posted by Gadzooks

You weren't posting this shit before the game. Classy, 'lil' big man.

What are you talking about, buttmunch? I created this thread before the season even started.