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Old 01-16-2015, 10:40 PM  
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LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"?
Part of me wants to think so.

We saw flashes in 2013 of him testing defenses downfield and being a lot more than a game manager.

Then his OL got severely downgraded through 3 big losses in free agency (all 3 got overpaid) and his 2 guards weren't even nfl quality, let alone starter quality.

His receivers needed a major upgrade last offseason (they were an obvious team weakness) and other than adding Jason Avant late in the year and developing a promising rookie in Albert Wilson...not a whole lot was done to help provide Alex Smith with adequate weapons. Losing Avery to injury further weakened an already subpar unit.

Here's my question:

If they improve the OL and receivers...will we see Alex Smith come out of his shell again (like we saw flashes of in the second half of 2013)?

If he does, how far can this team go if the defense plays like it has and Dee Ford steps into Hali's shoes adequately?
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:37 AM   #166
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No receivers are ever open enough for Alex Smith.

No offensive line is ever good enough for Alex Smith.

And there are very few defenses that are stingy enough for him, too.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:37 AM   #167
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Alex averages taking one sack for every 11 pass attempts.

I wonder how that stacks up to other quarterbacks.

I'll have to find out...
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:41 AM   #168
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No receivers are ever open enough for Alex Smith.

No offensive line is ever good enough for Alex Smith.

And there are very few defenses that are stingy enough for him, too.
He didn't seem to have a problem throwing to Avery, Kelce or Wilson.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:42 AM   #169
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Didn't read through the thread but when Smith lost Jenkins and avery it hamstrung him.

Give him some protection with the OL and some speed back at WR and yes he will be the QB we want.

Remember back to the 2nd half last year and the playoff game. He was hitting Wide receivers and still protecting the ball.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:43 AM   #170
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If by "fixed" you mean downfield passing then yes. He has proven that he can hit open WRs downfield. We just never have any. It won't be a wide open offense because that isn't what we run and we don't have the O-line for it anyway. Our #1 priority has to be WR that can get consistent SEPARATION if we expect to have any success with Smith. Bowe is not that guy, never has been.

If we get the WRs we need and Smith still falters than that's fine, we should (if we aren't idiots) have someone groomed to step in by then. If the QBs we have now (Bray, Murray) look like they can't do it we need to look at drafting another in the 3rd this year.
He has never proven this. The discrepancy in the WR numbers in SF during and after Smith and the WR numbers here before and during Smith illustrate that conclusively.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:44 AM   #171
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He's already been Neutered, no need to fix him.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:46 AM   #172
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The point is that I was told by a lot of Chiefs fans not to worry about the Alex Smith trade. Andy Reid wants to draft and develop his own QB just as much as we do, and at the first opportunity to take a quality QB that he can work with, that's exactly what would be done.

"Don't blame Andy Reid for this franchise's past failures in the QB realm."

"There wasn't anything good in 2013. You can't just draft a QB just to draft one."

Well there sat Bridgewater. And we passed on him just like King Carl would have done.

Dorsey/Reid are probably going to approach their next few drafts that way. "We don't need Rodgers, we have Green. We don't need any QB from the 2012 draft, we have Cassel." Rinse and ****ing repeat.
They've picked up rookie QB's in each of the last two years and that's with Smith signing a new contract and bringing in Daniels.

Don't fall into the "But we gotta draft a QB in the first for it to count!!!!" bullshit that always gets thrown around here.

They are not sitting on their laurels. They'll pick a guy when the guy that they like is there and he's better than other guys on their board. That's about it. They aren't going to rush head long into the classic Chief's Planet philosophy of over drafting the QB position just to draft a guy at the QB position.

If this place was picking QB's, we'd have a roster of Jimmy Clausen, Mark Sanchez and Johnny Manziel.

"We shoulda drafted Bridgewater!!!! Oh noes!!! Because he was a QB on the board when we picked!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"

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Here's what I don't understand with this whole thing.

Andy Reid has never been ok with or had a qb play as scared as Alec smith does. What changed? Is he now ok with it?

He's always put good to great passing teams on the field, one way or another.

He can't he happy with a bottom of the league passing game, no?
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No receivers are ever open enough for Alex Smith.

No offensive line is ever good enough for Alex Smith.

And there are very few defenses that are stingy enough for him, too.




There's no amount of dysfunction elsewhere on the team that could divert some reeruns' eyes from their ridiculous obsession with QB grudges.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:51 AM   #175
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He is 30 years old... no.

All we can do now is mask his faults by giving him a better O-Line and receiving options.
Alex is a young pup compared to Brady an Mannning and they made the playoffs. Alex can still be molded, formed and shaped like a piece of clay into the perfect QB.
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No receivers are ever open enough for Alex Smith.

No offensive line is ever good enough for Alex Smith.

And there are very few defenses that are stingy enough for him, too.
That's bullshit and you know it.

When you pick up a guy like Jason Avant off the street in the middle of the season and he immediately looks like your best receiver on the team two days later, you know you got problems at the position.

When you insert Jeff Linkenbach into the starting lineup and he's immediately your best guard, you know you got problems at the position.

And I won't even get into the whole 11-5, 9-7 after the worst ten year stretch of football in the franchise's history.
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They've picked up rookie QB's in each of the last two years and that's with Smith signing a new contract and bringing in Daniels.

Don't fall into the "But we gotta draft a QB in the first for it to count!!!!" bullshit that always gets thrown around here.

They are not sitting on their laurels. They'll pick a guy when the guy that they like is there and he's better than other guys on their board. That's about it. They aren't going to rush head long into the classic Chief's Planet philosophy of over drafting the QB position just to draft a guy at the QB position.

If this place was picking QB's, we'd have a roster of Jimmy Clausen, Mark Sanchez and Johnny Manziel.

"We shoulda drafted Bridgewater!!!! Oh noes!!! Because he was a QB on the board when we picked!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"

This place goes into total epic meltdown when anything but a QB is picked in the first three rounds.
Drew Brees instead of Trent Green?
Aaron Rodgers instead of DJ?
Joe Flacco over Glenn Dorsey or Brandon Albert?
Moving up a couple spots to draft Tanehill?
Taking Bridgewater over Dee Ford?

At one point, this team needs to grow some nuts and at least try.
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Here's what I don't understand with this whole thing.

Andy Reid has never been ok with or had a qb play as scared as Alec smith does. What changed? Is he now ok with it?
If you played behind our OL wouldn't you play scared?
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That's bullshit and you know it.

When you pick up a guy like Jason Avant off the street in the middle of the season and he immediately looks like your best receiver on the team two days later, you know you got problems at the position.

When you insert Jeff Linkenbach into the starting lineup and he's immediately your best guard, you know you got problems at the position.

And I won't even get into the whole 11-5, 9-7 after the worst ten year stretch of football in the franchise's history.
You wouldn't be fighting this fight if Alex didn't go to college in Utah.
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At the time, I would still take dj.

Rodgers is Rodgers, but I don't think he'd have been what he is anywhere else. He had major overhauls in his game.

The others? Yeah, that sucks
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