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Old 04-30-2016, 04:27 PM  
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Thoughts on the 2016 draft class
Chris Jones DL MSU
KeiVarae Russell CB ND
Parker Ehinger G/T Cincinnati
Eric Murray CB Minnesota
Demarcus Robinson WR Florida
Kevin Hogan QB Stanford
Tyreek Hill RB/PR West Alabama
DJ White CB Georgia Tech
Dadi Nicolas OLB Virginia Tech

What are your thoughts? Any steals? What's your initial grade?
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Old 04-30-2016, 08:00 PM   #166
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What starting spots are open on the team?

Thumper? LG?

Dorsey understands positional value. He's not going to take a guy like Reggie Ragland at 28 to take Mauga's job. That's a ****ing waste. As would taking a LG.

Dorsey is using that approach because we have pro bowl caliber players all over our starting lineup. He's not drafting for the ****ing Browns.

He took Peters and Morse who started as rookies and were exceptional. It just so happens it worked out that way.

He might've taken a guy like Treadwell if they made it to 28, but why trade up and sacrifice depth? That's the thing that costed us most last season, and he addressed it.

Also, how does taking Jones not make our DL "a unit that other teams can't account for?"
Could have taken Jack to play next to dj and take over for him.
I'm guessing his knee is a time bomb so they didn't wanna go there.
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Old 04-30-2016, 08:00 PM   #167
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He might've taken a guy like Treadwell if they made it to 28, but why trade up and sacrifice depth? That's the thing that costed us most last season, and he addressed it.
Huh? It has been reported by multiple sources that Dorsey tried to trade up to get Treadwell.
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Old 04-30-2016, 08:02 PM   #168
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Depth is great and nowdays, basically a must.

But when you lose all pro type players like houston and charles, depth isn't gonna replace them.

Just bad luck to have lost all the guys we did, when we did.
Except, depth did replace Charles
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Old 04-30-2016, 08:02 PM   #169
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Could have taken Jack to play next to dj and take over for him.
I'm guessing his knee is a time bomb so they didn't wanna go there.
Or just didn't see ILB as a need.

Dorsey did take 2 of those a year ago and they just might like em.
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Old 04-30-2016, 08:02 PM   #170
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Except, depth did replace Charles
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Old 04-30-2016, 08:02 PM   #171
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What starting spots are open on the team?

Thumper? LG?

Dorsey understands positional value. He's not going to take a guy like Reggie Ragland at 28 to take Mauga's job. That's a ****ing waste. As would taking a LG.

Dorsey is using that approach because we have pro bowl caliber players all over our starting lineup. He's not drafting for the ****ing Browns.

He took Peters and Morse who started as rookies and were exceptional. It just so happens it worked out that way.

He might've taken a guy like Treadwell if they made it to 28, but why trade up and sacrifice depth? That's the thing that costed us most last season, and he addressed it.
No matter how many guys you draft you aren't going to get a roster full of backups who play as well as starters. You don't want them to be Fleming-esque disasters, but at some point, you're just sinking all of your assets into a contingency that won't reap great rewards even when needed.

If you want a simpler analogy, think of it this way: in a team sport, a dollar is worth more than four quarters.
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No matter how many guys you draft you aren't going to get a roster full of backups who play as well as starters. You don't want them to be Fleming-esque disasters, but at some point, you're just sinking all of your assets into a contingency that won't reap great rewards even when needed.

If you want a simpler analogy, think of it this way: in a team sport, a dollar is worth more than four quarters.
What starters did the Chiefs pass up for depth?

I'm really curious.
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Old 04-30-2016, 08:14 PM   #173
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Or just didn't see ILB as a need.

Dorsey did take 2 of those a year ago and they just might like em.
Yeah, but even if it's not a need, at that point, the value is pretty crazy with how good he is.

Had to be the knee
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Except, depth did replace Charles
Eh, yeah, for the most part
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Yeah, but even if it's not a need, at that point, the value is pretty crazy with how good he is.

Had to be the knee
The value of a talented guy with a bad knee is apparently the second round.

I think KC made the right choice. I think he's destined to be another Bowers.
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Those rbs were great last year, but man, a healthy Charles in Reid's offense I think could be a legit mvp candidate.

Hopefully with the emergence of the other 2 rbs they can use him in different ways.
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What starters did the Chiefs pass up for depth?

I'm really curious.
I'd say passing on a guy like Nkemdiche, who has star potential, for Jones and a fourth is a good example of that. Trading out of the second when Vonn Bell was there is another.

Honestly, I'd get passing on Nkemdiche if you're worried about character, but given their choices in this draft, you can't exactly say that the Chiefs are taking guys off the board for character concerns.

Again, this is not a bad draft. It's a yeoman's effort. But I don't think it's going to produce foundational players, either.
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