Broncos Whining about Chiefs bending the rules

[jjchieffan]

Are they? Are our linemen illegally blocking downfield? Here's the article


KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The Denver Broncos don't argue that the Chiefs offense is among the league's best.


They don't argue that quarterback Patrick Mahomes is having an MVP-like season. And they don't argue that they've lost twice to the Chiefs in the last four weeks and they don't like it.

They do argue that the Chiefs are bending the rules on downfield blocking when they put Mahomes in some of their most successful plays on offense -- the run-pass options, or RPOs.

"What's that cutoff point for an offensive lineman to be legally down the field in pass pro?'' said defensive end Derek Wolfe. "When is a guy offsides and when is he not? Is it 12 yards now?"

"Because they're 10 yards down the field on pass plays sometimes,'' Wolfe added. "I've been playing football since 1997, that's always been illegal. I've never heard in a single meeting where they said it was OK for linemen to be that far (downfield).''

The Chiefs, now 7-1, completed a season sweep of the Broncos with a 30-23 victory over Denver at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday. The Broncos, who have lost two meetings to Kansas City by a combined 10 points, held the Chiefs to 49 yards rushing, but Mahomes finished 24-of-34 passing for 303 yards and four touchdowns.

And many of the Chiefs' biggest pass plays came on the run-pass option. The rule for downfield blocking on pass plays is for a player to be a maximum of three yards down the field before the ball is thrown.

"Linemen are five yards downfield, how do we fix that? I don't know,'' said Broncos coach Vance Joseph. "What's the rule say? I don't know. But we have to figure this out and that's on tape. That's on tape, I've seen it.''

Several Broncos defenders echoed Wolfe's and Joseph's comments, including Broncos defensive end Shelby Harris. The Broncos were flagged for 10 penalties overall Sunday, while the Chiefs were flagged seven times.

"I'm not going to sit here and complain about the refs because we hurt ourselves. We had a ton of penalties,'' Wolfe said. "But at the end of the day they missed a ton of penalties on things that they had.''

Wolfe also challenged the validity of Kareem Hunt's highlight-worthy touchdown catch-and-run in the third quarter, when Hunt broke several tackles, hurdled Broncos safety Will Parks and pulled Broncos safety Justin Simmons into the end zone to finish the 23-yard play.

"It's supposed to be a dead play, the guy is offsides, the right guard (Andrew Wylie) is offsides,'' Wolfe said. "The right guard is offsides. I went to stand up thinking they were going to call it.''

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[TwistedChief]

Is it possible Derek Wolfe joined CP in August 2000 and has been posting as MHM since then? Because the girlish sensitivity seems similar.

Kudos to looking ahead, young lady! #metoo

[Mile High Mania]

Odd.

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Broncos whining is similar to Kansas fans whining about other team's recruiting violations.

Not even close.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I'm glad we're beyond the years of KC management talking about expanding the number of playoff teams.

And of the years when Broncos Ownership talked about how violating the salary cap during Super Bowl seasons gave them no advantage over all those teams who followed the rules.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

You spend a whole lotta energy focused on the past.

At some point, you'll start to enjoy and I mean really enjoy the game again. I don't know when, you're pretty beaten down with the conspiracy theories. You have way too much aggression towards most things to really enjoy the game right now.

What makes you think I'm not enjoying this...this is playing out exactly like I predicted.

You can use the term "conspiracy theory" as a derogatory slight...and pretend that, throughout history, powerful people have never conspired to maintain control...I dont really give shit what you think on that front...you're wrong and I'm not interested enough to explain why. It might be useful to know the term "conspiracy theory" was invented by the DOD in the 1960s as a propaganda initiative to discredit whistle-blowers. So when you ignorantly repeat it...realize you've been played.

Must suck that a loony CT nut-job has predicted your teams last 3 seasons almost to a spooky level of accuracy. You know I have...and if I had taken your bet..you would still be self-banned...remember when I was trying to tell you about Keesum and saying he was going to throw picks this year...yeah.

I'm never letting Horseface off the hook for being a cheating ****ing scumbag liar..I dont care if your team goes 1-15 for the next decade. **** him..

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

BlackOp hates him some donkey. This is good.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Claysexual

BlackOp hates him some donkey. This is good.

I hate Horseface...and those that worship him are mere byproduct fodder of said hate.

I dont hate anyone for following a team they grew up on...I do hate on them once they know the difference between a habitual cheater and being an actual champion...then pretending it doesn't matter.

The best part of this...is Donko ownership is so ****ed up that they cant fire Horseface. They have no one qualified to vet a replacement GM and wouldn't recognize a good one from a turd in a urinal....they are stuck with his ass for a while.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

What makes you think I'm not enjoying this...this is playing out exactly like I predicted.

You can use the term "conspiracy theory" as a derogatory slight...and pretend that, throughout history, powerful people have never conspired to maintain control...I dont really give shit what you think on that front...you're wrong and I'm not interested enough to explain why. It might be useful to know the term "conspiracy theory" was invented by the DOD in the 1960s as a propaganda initiative to discredit whistle-blowers. So when you ignorantly repeat it...realize you've been played.

Must suck that a loony CT nut-job has predicted your teams last 3 seasons almost to a spooky level of accuracy. You know I have...and if I had taken your bet..you would still be self-banned...remember when I was trying to tell you about Keesum and saying he was going to throw picks this year...yeah.

I'm never letting Horseface off the hook for being a cheating ****ing scumbag liar..I dont care if your team goes 1-15 for the next decade. **** him..

Hey, for the last 3 years... a few of you have definitely been more right than wrong. And, you sure should have taken that bet. Funny, for someone so sure of their ramblings, you wouldn't walk from 8-8 --- funny.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Hey, for the last 3 years... a few of you have definitely been more right than wrong. And, you sure should have taken that bet. Funny, for someone so sure of their ramblings, you wouldn't walk from 8-8 --- funny.

Oh no, here we go again... I tried, but you "wordsmithed" my whole bet and changed the meaning. When they were 3-1, I said that they would not finish above .500. To the whole world, that means a losing record. But not to you - you kept saying that .500 was a "nothing" bet. I then tried to explain that when you put the word "NOT" in front of .500, it means that they would have a losing record and finish below .500. You successfully diverted the issue for weeks and began arguing semantics. In the meantime, the Donx losses started piling up so no bet ever occurred.
Anyway - at least that's how I remembered it going down. It doesn't matter now anyway because the of the MAHOMES EFFECT!

[TEX]

[QUOTE=Mile High Mania;13858765]You spend a whole lotta energy focused on the past. QUOTE]

Here's WHY he said he does, and it's also the reason why MOST here bring up the past. -

I dont hate anyone for following a team they grew up on...I do hate on them once they know the difference between a habitual cheater and being an actual champion...then pretending it doesn't matter.

You have always been on the other side, so I don't expect you to understand it - or maybe you do understand it, but you certainly don't "FEEL" it as we do.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by TEX

Oh no, here we go again... I tried, but you "wordsmithed" my whole bet and changed the meaning. When they were 3-1, I said that they would not finish above .500. To the whole world, that means a losing record. But not to you - you kept saying that .500 was a "nothing" bet. I then tried to explain that when you put the word "NOT" in front of .500, it means that they would have a losing record and finish below .500. You successfully diverted the issue for weeks and began arguing semantics. In the meantime, the Donx losses started piling up so no bet ever occurred.
Anyway - at least that's how I remembered it going down. It doesn't matter now anyway because the of the MAHOMES EFFECT!

"not above"

[TEX]

Originally Posted by patteeu

"not above"

And? your point?
I have said that it was the wrong way to word it a number of times - I get that. I also came back the next day and explained exactly what I meant, as being that they would end the season with 7 wins or less. Still, plenty of time to accept the terms, but the whole "nothing bet" narrative was already in play then.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by TEX

And?

And, you don't seem to understand how the English language works.

[Mile High Mania]

Here we go with the bet again...

You essentially said 'not above' and I said 'not below'... my only caveat was to take 8-8 off the table, you wouldn't do it. I didn't see a point in doing a bet where a tie made either one of us a winner. Made me believe you weren't so confident and wanted to use the .500 as a fail-safe.

Most here just told you to take it... you didn't and that's too bad. Keep beating that drum though.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by patteeu

And, you don't seem to understand how the English language works.

Oh, I do my friend. Completely. And, I also admitted that I used the wrong wording. And, explained exactly what I meant. I'm sure you can understand that, and I'm also quite sure that you just don't want to. It's what you do with everything. I get you bro.