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Old 01-20-2019, 09:17 PM  
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**** you, Dee Ford
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:14 AM   #166
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Healthier? Check.

Younger? Check.

More complete player? Check.

More intense competitor? Check.

More technically skilled? Check.

It’s Ws all the way around.
Cost?
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:20 AM   #167
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Cost?
Too much, but whatever. They view him as the 2nd best edge rusher in the NFL. Hope they're right.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:23 AM   #168
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Too much, but whatever. They view him as the 2nd best edge rusher in the NFL. Hope they're right.
Yeah, pretty much where i'm at with it.

It's a big swing, but if they're right, it could end up being awesome.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:23 AM   #169
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:27 AM   #170
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**** Dee Ford.
Frank Clark cost a first rounder and a monster contract.

That thread you started yesterday about the salary cap issues? Yeah, losing a cheap first round contract and replacing it with a monster contract are a reason there could be an issue.

If Clark is an unreal player, it doesn't matter, but it doesnt' reduce the cost.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:30 AM   #171
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Frank Clark cost a first rounder and a monster contract.

That thread you started yesterday about the salary cap issues? Yeah, losing a cheap first round contract and replacing it with a monster contract are a reason there could be an issue.

If Clark is an unreal player, it doesn't matter, but it doesnt' reduce the cost.
Yeah. I would've rather had Dee Ford at his current contract and the top rookie CB on the Chiefs board at 29. Ah well.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:32 AM   #172
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Yeah. I would've rather had Dee Ford at his current contract and the top rookie CB on the Chiefs board at 29. Ah well.
Maybe. I don't know.

If they feel Ford is about to really break down, they were right to pull the chute.

My biggest issue is that they just can't keep operating with no first round picks and then have their 2nd rounders be dog shit.

Kpass and Speaks need to do something pretty quickly.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:37 AM   #173
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This defense BADLY needed a complete overhaul and a new attitude.

Bringing back Ford with his injury history, his suckage against the run and his overall demeanor would have been a bad idea. The Chiefs would have spent years and millions on a brokedick, while maybe gettings one or two okay seasons out of him.

Bringing in Frank Clark was the right move. He's younger, better, and will CHANGE the tone of that defense. Brings a completely different energy and attitude to this defense that was BADLY needed. Anyone who has watched the absolute apathetic attitude of our defense over the last several years should know this. No guts, no heart.

Clark ALL DAY, EVERY DAY over Dee Ford.

Frank Clark is worth the contract, the pick and the eventual Super Bowl win. No one will give a shit about his contract (or the pick) in a couple years.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:40 AM   #174
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Again, I don't disagree that Clark isn't or wont' be a really good player.

But the margin is really slim to get any type of value there, so he pretty much has to be an elite ass kicker from day one.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:41 AM   #175
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The only thing you had to do to get a new attitude on defense is put a bullet into Suttons dumb ****ing face. You can tell from both players still on the team and those that have moved on that no one bought into his shitty scheme.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:44 AM   #176
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Again, I don't disagree that Clark isn't or wont' be a really good player.

But the margin is really slim to get any type of value there, so he pretty much has to be an elite ass kicker from day one.
Obviously, that's what the FO is counting on.

You don't trade 1st round picks (even late ones) for developmental guys.

The clear expectation is immediate, positive impact.

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Old 08-05-2019, 08:50 AM   #177
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Cost?

The salary cost between the two players is fairly small. Ford’s contract is structured to be easier to get away from, but I’m not convinced he would taken the same deal from KC.

The draft capital cost is not negligible, but they did manage to upgrade their 2019 #3, and will still have the 49ers #2 for 2020.

Clark is going to add a big edge/attitude to this squad, which it needed. The Chiefs will still have a second round pick as a result of the two moves and it will in all likelihood be the higher of the two.

End of the day, the ledger is:

+ Frank Clark
+ 8 spots in 2019 3rd round
+ 20 spots in 2020 second round

- Dee Ford
- 2-3 million AAV, flexibility to cut player at no cost
- 2019 #30
- 2019 #6x
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The salary cost between the two players is fairly small. Ford’s contract is structured to be easier to get away from, but I’m not convinced he would taken the same deal from KC.

The draft capital cost is not negligible, but they did manage to upgrade their 2019 #3, and will still have the 49ers #2 for 2020.

Clark is going to add a big edge/attitude to this squad, which it needed. The Chiefs will still have a second round pick as a result of the two moves and it will in all likelihood be the higher of the two.
Ford got 20.5 gtd.

That's a bit different than Clark.

I doubt he'd have taken that deal here, but it's not that small
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Obviously, that's what the FO is counting on.

You don't trade 1st round picks (even late ones) for developmental guys.

The clear expectation is immediate, positive impact.

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That's what i'm saying though, you don't just need immediate positive impact. You need ass kicker impact.

Like, near Khalil Mack impact.

Now they seem to think that's what he can bring, so hopefully they're right.
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Yeah. I would've rather had Dee Ford at his current contract and the top rookie CB on the Chiefs board at 29. Ah well.
Awful.

Dee Ford is injured garbage.
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