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Old 10-03-2021, 02:00 PM  
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Old 10-04-2021, 02:04 PM   #166
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Feliciano was also right to pop Okafor for standing over his QB.

He probably had no idea that Allen even flipped the ball at him. And y'know what? Even if he did, who gives a shit? Some DL ever stands over top of PM and flexes like that, I damn well better see Brown or Smith hauling balls back there to knock that guy into the sun.

That's what your OL does. If it means a flag here and there when the game is already out of hand - so be it.

I don't have any problem with what Feliciano did there. I would expect nothing less from our own guys.
I don’t have an issue with the OL response either. I remember being livid against the Steelers in 2016 regular season when none of our OL seemed to care that Mike Mitchell went low from behind on Alex Smith. Pretty sure it might have even been completely away from the play too.
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Old 10-04-2021, 02:19 PM   #167
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I just noticed on Pro Football Reference that the Advanced Rushing Stats are updated the Wednesday following the week’s games. That means the 4.1 yards before contact DOES NOT include the Eagles game. Expect that stat to get even better.
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I just noticed on Pro Football Reference that the Advanced Rushing Stats are updated the Wednesday following the week’s games. That means the 4.1 yards before contact DOES NOT include the Eagles game. Expect that stat to get even better.
Guessing yards after contact will take a pretty big leap. That ".9" stood out as odd based on memory of yesterday's game.
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To me the question in this game is does the offense have enough leeway to withstand a Tyreek Hill 3rd down drop and a Hardman unforced error to go down 9-0 and still end up winning this game.

So far, the defense (outside of the Chargers game) has not afforded our offense that flexibility.

We'll also see how Allen does in front of a real crowd.
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Okay I'm gonna take the bait. I'm a Bills fan and I'm gonna throw what I got at y'all.

First off, I think the Chiefs are still the class of the AFC. I don't expect the Bills to win on Sunday. The Chiefs have had the Bills number lately and I don't see that changing. I'll also admit Josh Allen has been a bundle of nerves at times, especially around big games. Maybe it changes on Sunday night, but I won't count on it.

Now for the stuff you guys may not love, but here's why I think KC is vulnerable, and why I don't think they are destined for a New England type dynasty.

I think ol' Patty has read a few too many of his paper clippings (and heard a bit too much of the dick slurping from ESPN and Tony Romo). He's been told he is already the GOAT and that nobody can touch him for a few years now and I think he's really feeling himself. And perhaps he should. But I think stuff like the no-look passes are unnecessary. And yes, I saw the one that got intercepted and while it wasn't his fault, I'm sure as a receiver it's probably a bit weird to have a guy who isn't looking at your throwing you the ball. Probably puts you behind a split second. And thus my point, his showing off is hurting the team. I think one reason (among many) why the Patriots basically ruled the NFL for nearly 20 years was that nobody was their own biggest fan. I despise them, but that whole "do your job" thing worked out kinda well for them. Brady may have had that annoying primal scream after scoring a touchdown and whatnot, but honestly the most annoying thing about that team is that they won and just kept on doing it without saying much of anything. Mahomes is great, but he's not the GOAT (yet). He's won as many Super Bowls as Brad Johnson and Jeff Hostetler. Do I expect him to win at least a few more? Sure. But until he wins as many as Aikman or Bradshaw or Montana, he's just a great QB who's done it once (Rodgers) but lost big to the true GOAT (we know who). But I think if they don't tamp down on the braggadocio, you might see the target on KC's back get bigger.

Now don't get me wrong. It's fine with me if he wants to continue being a showoff rather than just doing his job. Even if the Bills lose on Sunday, I have pretty decent hopes we can still get home field as we have a much, much easier schedule than the Chiefs from here on out. And sure, it's lame, but I think it's a possibility somebody else knocks them off in the playoffs before then and then Mahomes and company are no obstacle.

Also, how has this team not gotten this defense on track? How did they let a relatively bad Eagles team score 30 and stay in the game until the 4th quarter? Now, I'll readily admit that they have had the Bills number (and Josh's) lately, and once again, until I see differently, I actually don't expect the Bills are going to light them up. But things don't look great for your guys defense.

Actually, what is up with a team that only seems to come alive at the very last moment? Why can't the Chiefs go in and whoop on the teams that they should whoop on? Why the last minute dramatics against teams that they shouldn't need it against? Is it that same overconfidence I was speaking of earlier? Feeling like they were above the rest of the league and their opponents and not taking them seriously? I think Andy Reid is wonderful, but it is sure odd.

Lastly, this has nothing to do with the team and their success, but Travis Kelce's "Fight For Your Right" thing? Is it a joke? Cuz even the Beastie Boys realized that song was a ****ing joke somewhere around 1987 and never played it again live after that. He comes across as the meathead's meathead with that kinda stuff. I mean, Gronk was the poster boy for that, but even he is showing some awareness of it, and playing off of that with things like his USAA commercial.
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Okay I'm gonna take the bait. I'm a Bills fan and I'm gonna throw what I got at y'all.

First off, I think the Chiefs are still the class of the AFC. I don't expect the Bills to win on Sunday. The Chiefs have had the Bills number lately and I don't see that changing. I'll also admit Josh Allen has been a bundle of nerves at times, especially around big games. Maybe it changes on Sunday night, but I won't count on it.

Now for the stuff you guys may not love, but here's why I think KC is vulnerable, and why I don't think they are destined for a New England type dynasty.

I think ol' Patty has read a few too many of his paper clippings (and heard a bit too much of the dick slurping from ESPN and Tony Romo). He's been told he is already the GOAT and that nobody can touch him for a few years now and I think he's really feeling himself. And perhaps he should. But I think stuff like the no-look passes are unnecessary. And yes, I saw the one that got intercepted and while it wasn't his fault, I'm sure as a receiver it's probably a bit weird to have a guy who isn't looking at your throwing you the ball. Probably puts you behind a split second. And thus my point, his showing off is hurting the team. I think one reason (among many) why the Patriots basically ruled the NFL for nearly 20 years was that nobody was their own biggest fan. I despise them, but that whole "do your job" thing worked out kinda well for them. Brady may have had that annoying primal scream after scoring a touchdown and whatnot, but honestly the most annoying thing about that team is that they won and just kept on doing it without saying much of anything. Mahomes is great, but he's not the GOAT (yet). He's won as many Super Bowls as Brad Johnson and Jeff Hostetler. Do I expect him to win at least a few more? Sure. But until he wins as many as Aikman or Bradshaw or Montana, he's just a great QB who's done it once (Rodgers) but lost big to the true GOAT (we know who). But I think if they don't tamp down on the braggadocio, you might see the target on KC's back get bigger.

Now don't get me wrong. It's fine with me if he wants to continue being a showoff rather than just doing his job. Even if the Bills lose on Sunday, I have pretty decent hopes we can still get home field as we have a much, much easier schedule than the Chiefs from here on out. And sure, it's lame, but I think it's a possibility somebody else knocks them off in the playoffs before then and then Mahomes and company are no obstacle.

Also, how has this team not gotten this defense on track? How did they let a relatively bad Eagles team score 30 and stay in the game until the 4th quarter? Now, I'll readily admit that they have had the Bills number (and Josh's) lately, and once again, until I see differently, I actually don't expect the Bills are going to light them up. But things don't look great for your guys defense.

Actually, what is up with a team that only seems to come alive at the very last moment? Why can't the Chiefs go in and whoop on the teams that they should whoop on? Why the last minute dramatics against teams that they shouldn't need it against? Is it that same overconfidence I was speaking of earlier? Feeling like they were above the rest of the league and their opponents and not taking them seriously? I think Andy Reid is wonderful, but it is sure odd.

Lastly, this has nothing to do with the team and their success, but Travis Kelce's "Fight For Your Right" thing? Is it a joke? Cuz even the Beastie Boys realized that song was a ****ing joke somewhere around 1987 and never played it again live after that. He comes across as the meathead's meathead with that kinda stuff. I mean, Gronk was the poster boy for that, but even he is showing some awareness of it, and playing off of that with things like his USAA commercial.
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Okay I'm gonna take the bait. I'm a Bills fan and I'm gonna throw what I got at y'all.

First off, I think the Chiefs are still the class of the AFC. I don't expect the Bills to win on Sunday. The Chiefs have had the Bills number lately and I don't see that changing. I'll also admit Josh Allen has been a bundle of nerves at times, especially around big games. Maybe it changes on Sunday night, but I won't count on it.

Now for the stuff you guys may not love, but here's why I think KC is vulnerable, and why I don't think they are destined for a New England type dynasty.

I think ol' Patty has read a few too many of his paper clippings (and heard a bit too much of the dick slurping from ESPN and Tony Romo). He's been told he is already the GOAT and that nobody can touch him for a few years now and I think he's really feeling himself. And perhaps he should. But I think stuff like the no-look passes are unnecessary. And yes, I saw the one that got intercepted and while it wasn't his fault, I'm sure as a receiver it's probably a bit weird to have a guy who isn't looking at your throwing you the ball. Probably puts you behind a split second. And thus my point, his showing off is hurting the team. I think one reason (among many) why the Patriots basically ruled the NFL for nearly 20 years was that nobody was their own biggest fan. I despise them, but that whole "do your job" thing worked out kinda well for them. Brady may have had that annoying primal scream after scoring a touchdown and whatnot, but honestly the most annoying thing about that team is that they won and just kept on doing it without saying much of anything. Mahomes is great, but he's not the GOAT (yet). He's won as many Super Bowls as Brad Johnson and Jeff Hostetler. Do I expect him to win at least a few more? Sure. But until he wins as many as Aikman or Bradshaw or Montana, he's just a great QB who's done it once (Rodgers) but lost big to the true GOAT (we know who). But I think if they don't tamp down on the braggadocio, you might see the target on KC's back get bigger.

Now don't get me wrong. It's fine with me if he wants to continue being a showoff rather than just doing his job. Even if the Bills lose on Sunday, I have pretty decent hopes we can still get home field as we have a much, much easier schedule than the Chiefs from here on out. And sure, it's lame, but I think it's a possibility somebody else knocks them off in the playoffs before then and then Mahomes and company are no obstacle.

Also, how has this team not gotten this defense on track? How did they let a relatively bad Eagles team score 30 and stay in the game until the 4th quarter? Now, I'll readily admit that they have had the Bills number (and Josh's) lately, and once again, until I see differently, I actually don't expect the Bills are going to light them up. But things don't look great for your guys defense.

Actually, what is up with a team that only seems to come alive at the very last moment? Why can't the Chiefs go in and whoop on the teams that they should whoop on? Why the last minute dramatics against teams that they shouldn't need it against? Is it that same overconfidence I was speaking of earlier? Feeling like they were above the rest of the league and their opponents and not taking them seriously? I think Andy Reid is wonderful, but it is sure odd.

Lastly, this has nothing to do with the team and their success, but Travis Kelce's "Fight For Your Right" thing? Is it a joke? Cuz even the Beastie Boys realized that song was a ****ing joke somewhere around 1987 and never played it again live after that. He comes across as the meathead's meathead with that kinda stuff. I mean, Gronk was the poster boy for that, but even he is showing some awareness of it, and playing off of that with things like his USAA commercial.
Wow. That's a piping hot take! The Chiefs may not win 6 Super Bowls over the next decade or so. Hell of a job, Nostradamus! Wake me when the Bills have won anything, ever.
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Okay I'm gonna take the bait. I'm a Bills fan and I'm gonna throw what I got at y'all.

First off, I think the Chiefs are still the class of the AFC. I don't expect the Bills to win on Sunday. The Chiefs have had the Bills number lately and I don't see that changing. I'll also admit Josh Allen has been a bundle of nerves at times, especially around big games. Maybe it changes on Sunday night, but I won't count on it.

Now for the stuff you guys may not love, but here's why I think KC is vulnerable, and why I don't think they are destined for a New England type dynasty.

I think ol' Patty has read a few too many of his paper clippings (and heard a bit too much of the dick slurping from ESPN and Tony Romo). He's been told he is already the GOAT and that nobody can touch him for a few years now and I think he's really feeling himself. And perhaps he should. But I think stuff like the no-look passes are unnecessary. And yes, I saw the one that got intercepted and while it wasn't his fault, I'm sure as a receiver it's probably a bit weird to have a guy who isn't looking at your throwing you the ball. Probably puts you behind a split second. And thus my point, his showing off is hurting the team. I think one reason (among many) why the Patriots basically ruled the NFL for nearly 20 years was that nobody was their own biggest fan. I despise them, but that whole "do your job" thing worked out kinda well for them. Brady may have had that annoying primal scream after scoring a touchdown and whatnot, but honestly the most annoying thing about that team is that they won and just kept on doing it without saying much of anything. Mahomes is great, but he's not the GOAT (yet). He's won as many Super Bowls as Brad Johnson and Jeff Hostetler. Do I expect him to win at least a few more? Sure. But until he wins as many as Aikman or Bradshaw or Montana, he's just a great QB who's done it once (Rodgers) but lost big to the true GOAT (we know who). But I think if they don't tamp down on the braggadocio, you might see the target on KC's back get bigger.

Now don't get me wrong. It's fine with me if he wants to continue being a showoff rather than just doing his job. Even if the Bills lose on Sunday, I have pretty decent hopes we can still get home field as we have a much, much easier schedule than the Chiefs from here on out. And sure, it's lame, but I think it's a possibility somebody else knocks them off in the playoffs before then and then Mahomes and company are no obstacle.

Also, how has this team not gotten this defense on track? How did they let a relatively bad Eagles team score 30 and stay in the game until the 4th quarter? Now, I'll readily admit that they have had the Bills number (and Josh's) lately, and once again, until I see differently, I actually don't expect the Bills are going to light them up. But things don't look great for your guys defense.

Actually, what is up with a team that only seems to come alive at the very last moment? Why can't the Chiefs go in and whoop on the teams that they should whoop on? Why the last minute dramatics against teams that they shouldn't need it against? Is it that same overconfidence I was speaking of earlier? Feeling like they were above the rest of the league and their opponents and not taking them seriously? I think Andy Reid is wonderful, but it is sure odd.

Lastly, this has nothing to do with the team and their success, but Travis Kelce's "Fight For Your Right" thing? Is it a joke? Cuz even the Beastie Boys realized that song was a ****ing joke somewhere around 1987 and never played it again live after that. He comes across as the meathead's meathead with that kinda stuff. I mean, Gronk was the poster boy for that, but even he is showing some awareness of it, and playing off of that with things like his USAA commercial.
You're a Bills fan and you just mentioned the Patriots and Tom Brady on a Chiefs message board.

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He's been told he is already the GOAT and that nobody can touch him for a few years now and I think he's really feeling himself. And perhaps he should. But I think stuff like the no-look passes are unnecessary. And yes, I saw the one that got intercepted and while it wasn't his fault, I'm sure as a receiver it's probably a bit weird to have a guy who isn't looking at your throwing you the ball. Probably puts you behind a split second. And thus my point, his showing off is hurting the team.
Jesus Christ, dude. This part was like reading a sentient bag of cocaine after a 5 minute bender with Skip Bayless.
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My lord Bills fans are the worst. They are one of the few fan bases that feel the need to post on Chiefsplanet and there hasn’t been one that didn’t have the most horrific takes. Yes Mahomes is reading press clippings on the way to a record setting historic season. Easily the worst week is bills week.
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