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ArrowheadHawk · 11:26 AM

2011-12 Kansas Men’s Basketball (29-6,17-3)
#2 Seed Midwest Bracket
Big 12 Champions

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Next Game: Friday, March 23 vs North Carolina State 9:15pm CST

**007** · 01-12-2012, 06:21 PM

Lazy Toad has become my new favorite place.

They don't have a huge screen in the main bar but you are surrounded by TVs

**Lzen** · 01-13-2012, 10:13 AM

Friday, January 13, 2012
Keegan

It’s time for RPI to RIP

By Tom Keegan

It never hurts to dream. Permanent world peace. Full employment. A shining sun every day. Last, but far from least, a Selection Sunday in which the acronym RPI never is mentioned and is not in any way a part of the process.

Administrators tend to like the Ratings Percentage Index because it gives them indirect but not insignificant influence over a team’s rating. Scheduling in such a way as to manipulate the RPI can be an art form. Avoid teams that figure to have super-low ratings, and try to identify beatable teams that should have higher RPIs.

It’s the worst of the computer rankings and puts far too much emphasis on strength of schedule.

For example, Kansas entered Wednesday night’s game in Lubbock against Texas Tech ranked 18th in the RPI.

KU played such suffocating defense for a 20-minute stretch that encompassed roughly the final third of the first half and the first two-thirds of the second half, it outscored the Red Raiders, 52-12, on the way to an 81-46 rout.

So, naturally, after a domination not often seen in Div. I conference play, the winning team dropped in the RPI, and the hammered one moved up. Kansas dropped from 18 to 25. Texas Tech, which couldn’t hit water if it fell out of a boat, to steal Tommy Lasorda’s line about Kurt Bevacqua, hit pay dirt in the RPI, soaring from 202 to 186.

The RPI enables selection committee members charged with such difficult decisions to hide behind their computer numbers. Take that distorted crutch away.

It’s not even close to the best resource available, if it’s necessary to bank on something other than common sense and extensive discussion. Sagarin (Kansas at No. 10), Sagarin predictor (Kansas No. 2) and kenpom.com (Kansas No. 2) are better computer rankings, the Associated Press poll (Kansas No. 10), the best of all.

Kansas and Baylor both will climb in the RPI next week, regardless of the outcome of their much-anticipated Monday night match-up in Allen Fieldhouse. They’ll be rewarded for nothing more than playing each other.
Anywhere but in the RPI, Kansas is a Top-10 team, despite losing four starters, two of whom were lottery picks.

KU is a Top-10 team, even though the point guard, Tyshawn Taylor, has had trouble securing the ball, averaging four turnovers per game, the shooting guard has had trouble shooting (.293 from three-point range) and the bench is the program’s weakest in decades.

It’s a testament to a winning culture that doesn’t accept the phrase “rebuilding year” and maintains lofty expectations regardless of how many stars have moved on, to Thomas Robinson playing as well as anyone in the country and to the exceptional team defense.

“As a team, I think that was a pretty good defensive effort,” Taylor said after the Tech rout. “Justin Wesley came off the bench and played amazing defense. Jeff (Withey) was in there blocking shots and making their guards and their bigs have tough shots. Thomas as well. I think defensively we did a pretty good job.”

Especially for a team ranked no better than 25th in the nation, according to the computer ranking that needs to rest in peace.

BourbonMan · 01-13-2012, 10:39 AM

Want some Cheese with that Wine.

**Lzen** · 01-13-2012, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefs1968

Want some Cheese with that Wine.

Translation - I have no counter argument to this so I will just troll instead.

KSU fan?

Pants · 01-13-2012, 10:47 AM

Meh, win the conference and you're looking at a 1-2 seed. Only bubble teams should worry about their RPI.

**Saulbadguy** · 01-13-2012, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv

Ramada Convention Center in Downtown Topeka. Ended up being approx $51 after taxes and such.

There is an awesome Blues Bar in the basement of that hotel called "Uncle Bo's". They have live music every friday and saturday night.

chiefqueen · 01-13-2012, 12:57 PM

CNNSI is projecting Travis Ford (Okie St.) is on the hot sat. A couple of differences from 2008 could sway Self to leave IMO:

1) The stage in life Self's kids are at - Self's daughter was a HS senior in the fall of 2008 and his son will enter college the fall. (How mahy dads want their sons to go their alma mater, especially if it was where you met your wife?)

2) Bill Self may be a realist - this conference re-alignment is not done by a long-shot and at the end of the day do you really expect KU to still be in the BCS.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t12_a2

Fritz88 · 01-13-2012, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen

CNNSI is projecting Travis Ford (Okie St.) is on the hot sat. A couple of differences from 2008 could sway Self to leave IMO:

1) The stage in life Self's kids are at - Self's daughter was a HS senior in the fall of 2008 and his son will enter college the fall. (How mahy dads want their sons to go their alma mater, especially if it was where you met your wife?)

2) Bill Self may be a realist - this conference re-alignment is not done by a long-shot and at the end of the day do you really expect KU to still be in the BCS.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t12_a2

It wont happen.
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**RockChalk** · 01-13-2012, 01:28 PM

JC.

If Self goes anywhere, it would be to the NBA

And wtf does this have to do with anything:

Quote:

(How mahy dads want their sons to go their alma mater, especially if it was where you met your wife?)

**Lzen** · 01-13-2012, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen

CNNSI is projecting Travis Ford (Okie St.) is on the hot sat. A couple of differences from 2008 could sway Self to leave IMO:

1) The stage in life Self's kids are at - Self's daughter was a HS senior in the fall of 2008 and his son will enter college the fall. (How mahy dads want their sons to go their alma mater, especially if it was where you met your wife?)

2) Bill Self may be a realist - this conference re-alignment is not done by a long-shot and at the end of the day do you really expect KU to still be in the BCS.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t12_a2

Sheesh, that is some really dumb reasoning. Who wrote this? A 12 year old?

DJay23 · 01-14-2012, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88

It wont happen.
Posted via Mobile Device

Yeah, I'm not seeing this. Self has never been dumb enough to say he'll be at KU forever, but at the same time he seems genuinely happy at KU. Just from stories I've heard and read from people who have met him out and about, he seems like a man who enjoys and is proud of his job.

DJay23 · 01-14-2012, 08:30 AM

For those other out of towners with the YES network, the game is there today, Directv channel 631.

Braincase · 01-14-2012, 09:05 AM

Keep me posted, I might be able to swing over.

ArrowheadHawk · 01-14-2012, 10:57 AM

I may have to show up and meet some of you guys again. I was going to try and get tickets but GA is going for $300.

Pablo · 01-14-2012, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen

CNNSI is projecting Travis Ford (Okie St.) is on the hot sat. A couple of differences from 2008 could sway Self to leave IMO:

1) The stage in life Self's kids are at - Self's daughter was a HS senior in the fall of 2008 and his son will enter college the fall. (How mahy dads want their sons to go their alma mater, especially if it was where you met your wife?)

2) Bill Self may be a realist - this conference re-alignment is not done by a long-shot and at the end of the day do you really expect KU to still be in the BCS.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t12_a2

You are the worst.

Quit posting.

03-31-2011, 09:32 AM
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01-13-2012, 10:13 AM	#1787
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01-13-2012, 12:57 PM	#1792
chiefqueen On my throne Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $8152060	Here we go again??????????? CNNSI is projecting Travis Ford (Okie St.) is on the hot sat. A couple of differences from 2008 could sway Self to leave IMO: 1) The stage in life Self's kids are at - Self's daughter was a HS senior in the fall of 2008 and his son will enter college the fall. (How mahy dads want their sons to go their alma mater, especially if it was where you met your wife?) 2) Bill Self may be a realist - this conference re-alignment is not done by a long-shot and at the end of the day do you really expect KU to still be in the BCS. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t12_a2
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