Cardinals "Official" 2011 St. Louis Cardinals Thread - Page 121

**BigRedChief** · 02:10 PM

This is so unreal. We were dead. No hope. A season over. Somehow, someway we find some team chemistry and squeak into the playoffs on the last day of the season.

Only to find us facing one of the best pitching staffs assembled in years with home field advantage. We somehow, someway find a way to beat the best pitcher in baseball on the road in an elimination game.

We have to go on the road and beat the team with the best home record in baseball. A team who mortgaged their future to make this run .We somehow, someway find a way to beat them on the road and make our 18th World series trip.

We take game 1, we give away game 2 and home field advantage. Albert goes off for probably the best performance in World Series history and we take game 3 easily. Games 4 & 5 our bats fall asleep, Phone gate happens and its not looking too good.

Game 6, one of the best baseball games of all time and it takes place in a season ending go home game. Cardinals are down 2 runs in their final chance on the season, twice. They are down to their final strike of the season, twice. They give up a 2 run homer in extra innings. In the bottom of the inning their final 3 batters are a combined 3-26 in the Playoffs and a pitcher because the bench is empty. Somehow, someway they get some runners on and the comeback player of the year drives in the tying run. Mr. Freese hits the walk off home run. We will see you tommorrow night.

Game 7, With our bulldog on the mound pitching on 3 days rest he is able to give us 6 good innings and get us to within 9 outs of our 11 World series title. Texas meltsdown, probably left over from last nights game and its over.

The underdog, come back team who had no business even being in the playoffs wins a World championship. They make movies about events like this in life. Events that you remember even if your not a fan of the sport or team for the rest of your life.

When it is your team.......Priceless

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Jewish Rabbi · 06-26-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

No reason why the Cardinals can't have a rotation of Wainwright, Garcia, Westbrook, Lohse and Lynn next season.

That's a pretty decent rotation if you ask me.

Even better if you replace Lynn with McClellan.

Pasta Little Brioni · 06-26-2011, 03:34 PM

Romero shuts em out. Swept away by the Canadians, while the Brewers put away the Twinkies. This is Milwaukee's division to lose.

Marcellus · 06-26-2011, 03:36 PM

I am about done with the Cards this year. They don't play smart baseball.

It is just ugly to continually watch them screw up game after game.

Chief Roundup · 06-26-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

It would bother me.

No team is going to run away with the Central. Cardinals just need to win and not go on long losing streaks.

X= Jon Jay

Wouldn't do that for Bombgarner.

Don't want to get rid of Jon Jay but you can put Colby Rasmus in his place.

**BigRedChief** · 06-26-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

No reason why the Cardinals can't have a rotation of Wainwright, Garcia, Westbrook, Lohse and Lynn next season.

That's a pretty decent rotation if you ask me.

2nd half will also see Miller called up.

**BigRedChief** · 06-26-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I am about done with the Cards this year. They don't play smart baseball.

It is just ugly to continually watch them screw up game after game.

This division is wide open. We will make a run.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-26-2011, 05:51 PM

Here's the question you have to ask yourself:

Is another 80 games of Lance Berkman plus the FA compensation we'll get from letting him walk worth several cost-controlled years of a young, left handed SP with a top 25 SP ceiling?

I'd much rather roll out a rotation of Wainwright, Garcia, Bumgarner, McLellan, and Lohse.

Then, after next year, you can cut ties with Lohse and Westbrook and take another 18 million off the books while not even needing to fill a SP slot.

An OF of Craig, Rasmus, and Holliday is more than good enough, and some of that savings could, hopefully, finally fix the MI.

hill billie · 06-26-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'd much rather roll out a rotation of Wainwright, Garcia, Bumgarner, McLellan, and Lohse.

Wainwright, Garcia, Bumgarner, Shelby Miller, Carlos Martinez

Titty Meat · 06-26-2011, 06:12 PM

My father went to the game today he said ya'll have a super stadium. I told him Arrowhead is better (he hates the Chiefs) which stadium would you say is better if you can even compare the two.

ChiefsCountry · 06-26-2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

My father went to the game today he said ya'll have a super stadium. I told him Arrowhead is better (he hates the Chiefs) which stadium would you say is better if you can even compare the two.

Kauffman beats the shit out of both of them.

**BigRedChief** · 06-26-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Here's the question you have to ask yourself:

Is another 80 games of Lance Berkman plus the FA compensation we'll get from letting him walk worth several cost-controlled years of a young, left handed SP with a top 25 SP ceiling?

I'd much rather roll out a rotation of Wainwright, Garcia, Bumgarner, McLellan, and Lohse.

Then, after next year, you can cut ties with Lohse and Westbrook and take another 18 million off the books while not even needing to fill a SP slot.

An OF of Craig, Rasmus, and Holliday is more than good enough, and some of that savings could, hopefully, finally fix the MI.

Starting pitching is not a pressing issue. We need to fix the bullpen and middle infield. I know your not as high on Miller as I am but he will be on the roster next year.Barring an injury, I'd bet real money on that and maybe even Martinez in 2013.

I'd give up Jay to get some bullpen help but at this time of the year you have to way over pay for bullpen help. The Brewers gave up their future starting SS and CF and a top pitching prospect to get Grienke and make a run this year.

We don't have to mortgage the future because this is our last shot. Even if Pujols leaves, we have enough talent to make another run in the next 5-6 years.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 06-26-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Kauffman beats the shit out of both of them.

I was just going to post this

**luv** · 06-26-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Kauffman beats the shit out of both of them.

I haven't been to the new Busch Stadium, but I think it would be hard to top Kauffman.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 06-26-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Starting pitching is not a pressing issue. We need to fix the bullpen and middle infield. I know your not as high on Miller as I am but he will be on the roster next year.Barring an injury, I'd bet real money on that and maybe even Martinez in 2013.

I'd give up Jay to get some bullpen help but at this time of the year you have to way over pay for bullpen help. The Brewers gave up their future starting SS and CF and a top pitching prospect to get Grienke and make a run this year.

We don't have to mortgage the future because this is our last shot. Even if Pujols leaves, we have enough talent to make another run in the next 5-6 years.

It's not that I'm not high on Miller, I just don't think he's gonna be Tim Lincecum out of the gate.

Here is the deal:

If you spin Berkman and another piece for Bumgarner, then you get an immediate ROI rather than one that will take several years and have a lower chance of panning out. It also allows you to counteract the Phillies' LH heavy lineup. It also lets you trot out the following staff in 2013:

Wainwright
Bumgarner
Garcia
Miller
McLellan

Now, if you think Martinez is ready by then, you can plug him in there.

That's the deepest rotation in baseball, and it's also a damned cheap one.

That allows you to spend money to fix the gaping hole that exists at 2nd, SS, and 3rd without hamstringing the team.

Furthermore, the OF is still a strength, as I'm a firm believer that Allen Craig can be a good ML RFer

KChiefs1 · 06-26-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

I haven't been to the new Busch Stadium, but I think it would be hard to top Kauffman.

Been to several games at both & The K is a winner but the new Busch is like 1000% better than the old Busch.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7959572	Here's the question you have to ask yourself: Is another 80 games of Lance Berkman plus the FA compensation we'll get from letting him walk worth several cost-controlled years of a young, left handed SP with a top 25 SP ceiling? I'd much rather roll out a rotation of Wainwright, Garcia, Bumgarner, McLellan, and Lohse. Then, after next year, you can cut ties with Lohse and Westbrook and take another 18 million off the books while not even needing to fill a SP slot. An OF of Craig, Rasmus, and Holliday is more than good enough, and some of that savings could, hopefully, finally fix the MI. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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