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Reerun_KC · 03:42 PM

Regular Season

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Big 12 Tournament

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Saccopoo · 12-29-2015, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

crown his ass then

hes easily the biggest coward in the paint the school has ever witnessed..more than Chenowith even.

Man, you're reeruned.

C3HIEF3S · 12-29-2015, 10:12 PM

Michigan State loses at Iowa 83-70.

If KU beats Baylor on the 2nd of January then it may very well be #1 KU vs #2 OU in Lawrence next Monday.

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-29-2015, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Michigan State loses at Iowa 83-70.

If KU beats Baylor on the 2nd of January then it may very well be #1 KU vs #2 OU in Lawrence next Monday.

Valentine is out but good win for Iowa obviously. MSU is nice with Valentine having super human performances, but I don't trust teams without a PG in the tournament. I don't care who your coach is. See: KU in 2013 against Michigan. It'll bite you.

Saccopoo · 12-29-2015, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Valentine is out but good win for Iowa obviously. MSU is nice with Valentine having super human performances, but I don't trust teams without a PG in the tournament. I don't care who your coach is. See: KU in 2013 against Michigan. It'll bite you.

See KU 2015/2016.

ROYC75 · 12-29-2015, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

crown his ass then

hes easily the biggest coward in the paint the school has ever witnessed..more than Chenowith even.

Dude, yur shit is getting pretty stupid. If you are so upset with Ellis on the team, do us a favor and find a new team to root for. The rest of us will have a very relaxing time with it. None of us will loose any sleep over it.

It will be great when KU cuts down the nets to hear you bitch about how Ellis held the Hawks back only allowing them to win 1 NC in his 4 years.

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-29-2015, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

See KU 2015/2016.

What? Guard play (esp. PG play) is our strength, not to mention was the reason we weren't down more at the end of the first half tonight.

Mason/Graham's assist/turnover ratio coming into tonight was like 84:19 or something crazy like that.

CoMoChief · 12-29-2015, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Dude, yur shit is getting pretty stupid. If you are so upset with Ellis on the team, do us a favor and find a new team to root for. The rest of us will have a very relaxing time with it. None of us will loose any sleep over it.

It will be great when KU cuts down the nets to hear you bitch about how Ellis held the Hawks back only allowing them to win 1 NC in his 4 years.

As always...Roy is full of poo.

CoMoChief · 12-29-2015, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Man, you're reeruned.

Man...

Saccopoo · 12-29-2015, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

What? Guard play (esp. PG play) is our strength, not to mention was the reason we weren't down more at the end of the first half tonight.

Mason/Graham's assist/turnover ratio coming into tonight was like 84:19 or something crazy like that.

I miss the good ol' days...

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-29-2015, 11:16 PM

KU is now the #1 team in KenPom. OU coming in at #2.

**BigRedChief** · 12-30-2015, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Anyone know if Diallo is still alive?

Can someone please explain why he is not out on the floor? What was the point of fighting so hard to make him eligible if you are not going to play him?

Silock · 12-30-2015, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Can someone please explain why he is not out on the floor? What was the point of fighting so hard to make him eligible if you are not going to play him?

8 minutes, 3 fouls, 1 TO.

He doesn't know the defensive rotations.

C3HIEF3S · 12-30-2015, 01:45 AM

Yeah he's raw as hell, but continuing to park him on the bench in games like today is only going to be less beneficial for the team down the road.

Silock · 12-30-2015, 02:27 AM

It won't matter if our post players keep stepping up. We don't really need him to be great right now.

BWillie · 12-30-2015, 03:05 AM

I think the ship has sailed if you are expected Diallo to get more than 10 minutes a game. Its conference time and HCBS wants that 12rh straight title and to put us in position for a #1 seed. It is silly to not play him and Bragg when we are up 22 pts in the 2nd half only to put him in with Tyler Self and Evan Manning for mop up time but thats the way Bill rolls. The rotation is set, so lets just focus on getting those Ws and hope Landen Lucas can be as productive as possible.

As is, in terms of overall CURRENT production I would rank the bigs as follows

1) Hunter Mickelson
2) Carlton Bragg (he had a shit game today, though)
3) Landen Lucas
4) Chieck Diallo
5)Jamari Traylor

I feel like they all kind of are average guys, so its really splitting hairs at this point. They all have significant pluses and weaknesses.

Hunter is an energy player, pokes balls lose, blocks shots. But hes not a back to the basket scorer, although nobody is. Hes an effective enough rebounder. Decent range, lacks some toughness tho.

Carlton is very skilled, athletic and best shooter of the bunch. Probably would be the best scorer if was given big time minutes and be more of a focal point in the offense (im not advocating that). Has better defensive positioning than Diallo at this point but isnt a natural elite defender talent. Lacks mass to be able to bang down low. Best passer of the group. Blocks more shots than Lucas.

Lucas. Probably the most consistent of them all. Best rebounder, best at getting position, best at defending post players with lots of mass (Think Rico Gathers) but hes the worst big we have at blocking shots. He has hands of stone, struggles finishing even close to the hoop. No range. Struggles against athletic bigs.

Diallo. Has no clue what hes doing. Mistake prone. Quick trigger. Best shot blocker on the team probability, probably 2nd best rebounder to Lucas. Matches up best against slender athletic bigs. Gets pushed around down low. Decent shot.

Traylor. Energy player. Can actually block shots from time to time. Is still and idiot as a 5th year senior. The most undersized in the bunch. Avg defensively, avg offensively. Will beast mode 2 games a year, but completely no show in a handful as well. Most versatile defensively.

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12-29-2015, 10:12 PM	#1802
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12-30-2015, 03:05 AM	#1815
BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1248759	I think the ship has sailed if you are expected Diallo to get more than 10 minutes a game. Its conference time and HCBS wants that 12rh straight title and to put us in position for a #1 seed. It is silly to not play him and Bragg when we are up 22 pts in the 2nd half only to put him in with Tyler Self and Evan Manning for mop up time but thats the way Bill rolls. The rotation is set, so lets just focus on getting those Ws and hope Landen Lucas can be as productive as possible. As is, in terms of overall CURRENT production I would rank the bigs as follows 1) Hunter Mickelson 2) Carlton Bragg (he had a shit game today, though) 3) Landen Lucas 4) Chieck Diallo 5)Jamari Traylor I feel like they all kind of are average guys, so its really splitting hairs at this point. They all have significant pluses and weaknesses. Hunter is an energy player, pokes balls lose, blocks shots. But hes not a back to the basket scorer, although nobody is. Hes an effective enough rebounder. Decent range, lacks some toughness tho. Carlton is very skilled, athletic and best shooter of the bunch. Probably would be the best scorer if was given big time minutes and be more of a focal point in the offense (im not advocating that). Has better defensive positioning than Diallo at this point but isnt a natural elite defender talent. Lacks mass to be able to bang down low. Best passer of the group. Blocks more shots than Lucas. Lucas. Probably the most consistent of them all. Best rebounder, best at getting position, best at defending post players with lots of mass (Think Rico Gathers) but hes the worst big we have at blocking shots. He has hands of stone, struggles finishing even close to the hoop. No range. Struggles against athletic bigs. Diallo. Has no clue what hes doing. Mistake prone. Quick trigger. Best shot blocker on the team probability, probably 2nd best rebounder to Lucas. Matches up best against slender athletic bigs. Gets pushed around down low. Decent shot. Traylor. Energy player. Can actually block shots from time to time. Is still and idiot as a 5th year senior. The most undersized in the bunch. Avg defensively, avg offensively. Will beast mode 2 games a year, but completely no show in a handful as well. Most versatile defensively. Last edited by BWillie; 12-30-2015 at 03:19 AM..
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