***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[suzzer99]

This is why the administration sending out mixed messages matters. People are still failing to take this at all seriously, everywhere.

Yeah you can parse all day - well Trump didn't exactly say this or that. But when he sends out tweets with the word hoax, when he says "we're at 15 going to zero", when he says we'll have a vaccine in a few days, and when just Monday he sends out a tweet downplaying this and comparing it to the flu - that shit matters. People believe him.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

The Missouri state capital has confirmed that 5 of the MU students who attended the conference in NOLA where someone has tested positive worked at the capital Monday and Tuesday of this week. There are now in quarantine and being asked to document their activity during those two days.

Awesome.

Pretty soon we will have so many cases it won't even be news locally for new people that have contracted it. It's only a matter of time until someone on Chiefsplanet gets it.

[Talisman]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

That's weird. According to some of the posters here they shouldnt worry about anything because they are under the age of 65.

They may be more worried about the people the students have come in contact with and the general spread of the virus to others who would be at a greater risk given their age.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

This is why the administration sending out mixed messages matters. People are still failing to take this at all seriously, everywhere.

Yeah you can parse all day - well Trump didn't exactly say this or that. But when he sends out tweets with the word hoax, when he says "we're at 15 going to zero", when he says we'll have a vaccine in a few days, and when just Monday he sends out a tweet downplaying this and comparing it to the flu - that shit matters. People believe him.

While I think the freakout and buying everything is a bit overdone, it should be taken seriously or people who don't care will spread it to tons of people..

[suzzer99]

A friend of mine works for a company in KC where they are sending everyone home because coworkers just got back from the RSA conference where multiple people were sick. Here's one of them:

"one of the workers, a 45-year old man with an underlying heart condition, began experiencing symptoms after returning home after the conference. He is now seriously ill in a medically induced coma."

RSA sent out an email to his company (which came long after he read about it in the news) encouraging people to wash their hands and denying culpability saying "no governing body said we should have canceled the conference".

https://www.cyberscoop.com/exabeam-c...irus-rsa-2020/

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by Talisman

They may be more worried about the people the students have come in contact with and the general spread of the virus to others who would be at a greater risk given their age.

Today was disability advocacy day here.

Let's just say there were 100s of vulnerable people here today.

Not to mention the average age of the legislator.

[Talisman]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

Today was disability advocacy day here.

Let's just say there were 100s of vulnerable people here today.

Not to mention the average age of the legislator.

Yikes.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Here in America the following will happen if we stay home:

We will lose our jobs.

We will lose our homes.

We will lose our cars.

We will lose our health insurance (assuming our job even provides it).

We will accrue massive debt and default on loans.

OR:

We can go to work and if you get sick oh ****ing well.

That’s just how it is here.

This is ****ing stupid.

I'm working from home all week and will lose nothing.

Now granted, that's not an option for everyone.

But even if you DO get sick, if you are under 60, YOU ARE GOING TO BE FINE.

****ing stupid assed statement.

[suzzer99]

Some dude just came into the bathroom while I was taking a shit - breathing like he was about to keel over from pneumonia.

[Gravedigger]

I would imagine if you are forced to go home and don't have a work from home policy, you can look down the short term and/or long term disability paths. If they fire you due to this, then I would image unemployment is the option to go with. Not ideal by any stretch of the imagination, but a workaround for the times we're in today.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This is ****ing stupid.

I'm working from home all week and will lose nothing.

Now granted, that's not an option for everyone.

But even if you DO get sick, if you are under 60, YOU ARE GOING TO BE FINE.

****ing stupid assed statement.

I'm not sure what you are saying here. People under 60 have gotten Covid-19 and not been "fine"

[Donger]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Some dude just came into the bathroom while I was taking a shit - breathing like he was about to keel over from pneumonia.

I'm be more concerned about taking feces from the bathroom than some guy wheezing.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm be more concerned about taking feces from the bathroom than some guy wheezing.

I generally try to leave it in the bowl and take only memories, maybe a photo if it's impressive enough.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Some dude just came into the bathroom while I was taking a shit - breathing like he was about to keel over from pneumonia.

You should have roundhouse kicked him to the head.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This is ****ing stupid.

I'm working from home all week and will lose nothing.

Now granted, that's not an option for everyone.

But even if you DO get sick, if you are under 60, YOU ARE GOING TO BE FINE.

****ing stupid assed statement.

What a stupid post.