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Old 01-05-2010, 09:39 PM  
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***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread ***
Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

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Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:19 PM   #1816
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Houston smokescreen to drive up the price from the Phillies.

McClain has no problem spending money on his guys, never has (see Biggio, Bagwell, etc...). The $$ due Oswalt isn't a consideration for McClain. He's not going to move Roy for salary relief.

They'll only move Roy for premium talent (i.e. not Anderson, Salas and Craig). Ultimately, I just don't see the Cardinals giving up that kind of talent and paying at least $24 million over the next season plus.

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Old 07-22-2010, 10:20 PM   #1817
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Has Ed Wade ever made a trade that didn't involve the Phillies?
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:24 PM   #1818
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I don't think we need a front of the rotation guy, especially one owed 40 million dollars, and if we're giving up a top tier prospect, we need to get a second baseman.

We can give up middling guys to get a #4 starter, which is what we really need.
We have a guy that is one of the top 10 2b in baseball already in Flip. That guy's a legitimate ML hitter and average defensive 2b. I honestly don't see anyone available for trade that's better than Lopez.

There's nobody available that would help us more in the playoffs than Roy Oswalt, IMO. He would also take a lot of pressure off Garcia going forward, thus protecting one of our young assets in the process.

Oh yeah, and with Oswalt in the starting rotation, Garcia can be moved to the LHRP role in the post-season and we won't have to watch Sweat and Miller walk every lefty they face.
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Has Ed Wade ever made a trade that didn't involve the Phillies?
That would explain the Phillies recent dominance.

Ed Wade is a moron.
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How exactly is DeWallet going to be willing to pick up Oswalt's contract with 120 committed to Holliday, and Pujols about to bank about $30 million per?

Rasmus will be a Super Two and Luddy is due a raise as well. He may "have" the money, but thus far, he's been reluctant to cross a certain payroll threshold.
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Uggla is in a walk year for a team that is notorious for auctioning off their assets. He's also a perfect #6 hitter in this lineup.
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How exactly is DeWallet going to be willing to pick up Oswalt's contract with 120 committed to Holliday, and Pujols about to bank about $30 million per?

Rasmus will be a Super Two and Luddy is due a raise as well. He may "have" the money, but thus far, he's been reluctant to cross a certain payroll threshold.
He won't.
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Uggla is in a walk year for a team that is notorious for auctioning off their assets. He's also a perfect #6 hitter in this lineup.
Our IF defense is already awful and Uggla's possibly the worst everyday defender in the league.

Besides, we already have a good #6 hitter in Rasmus. Uggla's massively overrated offensively. He has a horrid approach (swing hard in case you hit it) and even as a consistent 30 HR guy, he's never driven in 100 runs. He's also a guy that is going to be exposed by premier pitching.

The team needs guys that get on base more than guys to drive them in. with Albert, Holliday, Ludwick, Rasmus and Freese in RBI positions, I'm more concerned with getting a few table setters.

I'd rather start Flip at 2b than Uggla.
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That's just ridiculous hyperbole.

First of all, Uggla has a good walk rate, but a relatively low batting average. He's a consistent 3-4 WAR player every year. He's had two poor fielding years, and another three at replacement level or above.

He's a mediocre to subpar defender, but he gives the lineup power, and he gets on base more often than Lopez, with much more big play potential.

FWIW, his fielding has been better than Lopez's this year, although he hasn't been split out across multiple positions.

But most importantly, he ****ing kills left-handed pitching. He has an 1100 OPS against lefties with a .424 OBP
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Suppan sucks, and suddenly nobody can ****ing hit again.

Glad I didn't take off to watch this stinker.
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Suppan sucks, and suddenly nobody can ****ing hit again.

Glad I didn't take off to watch this stinker.
Wind blowing out too. I hate losing to the Cubs
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Please trade for a SP so Suppan won't start.

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What was pathetic was that Holliday didn't hustle to 1st on a strikeout where the ball got away from Soto. Just sulked back to the dugout.
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Yeah, that was horseshit.

He would have gotten booed again had that happened at Busch, regardless of how hot his bat is.

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There is one available pitcher I'd sacrifice Shelby Miller for.

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