****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****

['Hamas' Jenkins]

After seizing the Citrus Bowl from Jerry Kill and the Minnesota Golden Gophers, the Missouri Tigers finish 11-3.

Italics=Likely sign and place
Bold=JUCO recruit

Key Recruits:

2016 Class:

Spoiler!

Tre Williams DE, MO, ****
Nate Strong RB, IL, ****
Damarea Crockett RB, AR, ****
Marvin Terry DE, TX ***
Greg Taylor S, MO, ***
Brendan Scales TE, MO ***
Albert Okwue. TE, IL ***
Cale Garrett ILB, MO ***
Trystan Castillo OL, MO ***
Micah Wilson QB, OK ***
Trevour Simms OL, IL ***
Tucker McCann K, IL ***
Dominic Collins WR, IL ***
Jerod Alton ATH, MO ***
DeMarkus Acy DB, TX ***
Dimetrious Mason WR, GA **
Christian Holmes WR, GA **
Trey Baldwin LB, TX **
Marksell Utsey DT, AR **

Schedule:

9/5: SEMO
9/12 @Ark St.
9/19: UConn
9/26: @Kentucky
10/3: South Carolina
10/10: Florida
10/17 @ Georgia
10/24: @ Vandy
10/31: Bye
11/5 (Thu): Mississippi State
11/14: BYU (@ Arrowhead)
11/21: Tennessee
11/28: @Arkansas

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by vailpass

The athletes?

Is there any particular reason why the NCAA is needed to put on a 68 team basketball tournament (and make 700M doing it)?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Why is that so terrible? What about a University isn't a business? It seems like from the minute you start talking college to the last verse, it's pretty-much all about money, so it makes a lot of sense actually.

And we'll see what GP's little stunt does with recruiting in a few months.

And don't give him any slack because "after a year like this it was going to be hard to recruit anyway." I want signs that 5-star athletes are beating down his door to get into MU. And none of this, "had he done the right thing and told his players to pipe-down he'd be the next BYU."

Because students can't be viewed the same as employees, even if you are paying some of them to be there.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Why is that so terrible? What about a University isn't a business? It seems like from the minute you start talking college to the last verse, it's pretty-much all about money, so it makes a lot of sense actually.

And we'll see what GP's little stunt does with recruiting in a few months.

And don't give him any slack because "after a year like this it was going to be hard to recruit anyway." I want signs that 5-star athletes are beating down his door to get into MU. And none of this, "had he done the right thing and told his players to pipe-down he'd be the next BYU."

That's the problem.

Many people don't seem to realize that Wolfe's role at the University - title be damned - is essentially Chief Administrator. People believe Wolfe is the face of the University and should act like it, but prior to this dustup I guarantee you that most people that are even pretty well attuned to the University couldn't tell you what Tim Wolfe looked like.

He's not a public presence and that's never really been his responsibility. Wofle trying to do this particular job like a CEO really isn't a bad thing at all. You need clinical, level-headed people like him in high positions of leadership that will take a purely detached look at things. You can't have them all be like that, but that's why Mizzou has Loftin around. Loftin is the glad-handed personable one that does his job the way that Busby evidently thinks all people in positions of leadership should do it.

I actually think the contrast in personalities at a high level like that is a very good approach.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

- Dumb morons are dicks to minorities, women and LGBT people.
- School doesn't really do a lot about it. Notably, the President Tim Wolfe.
- Said president runs MU like a corporation and does bad shit like cutting health benefits for graduates with about 48 hours of notice they were gonna lose their shit.
- Chancellor is a total dick to faculty and they hate him. English dept already done a vote of no confidence recently
- Black students tired of racial issues and decide to form a protest. In response, kids flash mob them ad they prepare so the group knows they think the group are a bunch of ****ers.
- They protest and are called ****ers
- Chancellor offers a half-hearted response many days after Payton Head incident. Classes about racial sensitivity is a good idea, but they need to do more
- Presidents driver revs his engine up and bumps his car into protestors.
- They demand changes from President. President says lol we got a plan we been working on but you will need to wait 6 more months to see what it is.
- He's clearly full of shit, protest is a thing and kid goes on hunger strike.
- They put iut a list of insane demands to get media attention. They got attention, it was not favorable "THEM THUGS!" so they try to cut off media access. Yeah not working well.
- Team protests although some players secretly still want to play. Coach and AD support it because it would be stupid not to.
- Stupid shit is posted on CP after people read a few headlines and now think they are experts about life on MU campus. God they are stupid.
- President resigns and protest is over.
- Stupud shit continues to be posted.

In the mix of that, everyone protests because they are pissed at the school for a variety of reasons. Vailpass posts shit about Ferguson, and shows he has no clue.

Woosh

Let me guess, you're one of the many former MU people (since you seem to know so much) who never bothered to do anything "when you were there"... Amaright?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Is there any particular reason why the NCAA is needed to put on a 68 team basketball tournament (and make 700M doing it)?

Oh you mean the schools would organize and fund it. They'd need to form an organizing body and rules committee, have someone act as oversight on recruiting violations, plus a legal structure, a public relations arm...hmmmmmm

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Because students can't be viewed the same as employees, even if you are paying some of them to be there.

They aren't treated as employees. They are, however, treated as customers. And with any business, there's an understanding that sometimes you have customer complaints that you simply don't engage. Or you know that at a certain price point, addressing them becomes prohibitive. Or you simply take the approach that pleases the most customers despite the fact that it angers some.

You appear to want a pack of young adults to be handled as though they are schoolchildren. And frankly, that's kinda what Loftin does. But everyone can't do that - someone needs to be behind the scenes looking at them as just another line on a ledger because that's how large organizations work. That was Wolfe's job and he didn't do it nearly as poorly as people are saying.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Justification aside. Racial issues aside. Just about every particular of this incident aside...


What does this do for college athletes in general? I could see this being the first step in them starting a college athlete's player union. The university royally screwed up by letting it get to that level, because the precedence that has been set is frightening. Whether they were really the tipping point or not, the message that can be pulled from this incident is that, "We have the power and can start to make demands."

There current record in basketball and football aside, few of these children seemed destined for anything more than being shoe salesmen.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Oh you mean the schools would organize and fund it. They'd need to form an organizing body and rules committee, have someone act as oversight on recruiting violations, plus a legal structure, a public relations arm...hmmmmmm

Seems like that $1B a year in revenues the NCAA generates would come in handy for such an exercise.

[TrebMaxx]

I think the axe isn't done swinging at MU. Looks like Lofton could very well be out soon too.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/...7228c5369.html

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Seems like that $1B a year in revenues the NCAA generates would come quite in handy for such an exercise.

Yes. They could use it to create another ncaa. Hopefully a less bloated model.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Yes. They could use it to create another ncaa. Hopefully a less bloated model.

And one where they actually get properly compensated for the revenues they generate.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

And one where they actually get properly compensated for the revenues they generate.

There is certainly room for improvement there. The whole paying athletes thing though is tricky...

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by vailpass

There is certainly room for improvement there. The whole paying athletes thing though is tricky...

If the NCAA doesn't pay them something more eventually, there may not even be a NCAA down the road.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TrebMaxx

I think the axe isn't done swinging at MU. Looks like Lofton could very well be out soon too.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/...69.htmlhttp://

{sigh}

Never let a crisis go to waste, right guys?

Very few people had issues with Loftin until the Planned Parenthood thing. Suddenly a faculty that is 90% liberal can't stand the guy. Gee...I'm shocked.

Loftin's a good Chancellor; brooming him would be a mistake.

[DaveNull]

Originally Posted by DaveNull

What are these two things about?

Answering my own question about the greek system in particular. Looks like the administration proposed the following rules with a straight face:

- No alcohol in houses other than beer (ok, I guess)
- No out of town formals (probably proposed by the owners of Peachtree)
- Drug testing of all fraternity members (lol..good luck with that one)
- Girls can't stay overnight at houses (triple lol)

And I thought Dry2000 was a shitty idea.