*****The Josh Simmons Thread*****

[Dante84]

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— Patrick Mahomes II (@PatrickMahomes) April 25, 2025

Several teams agree: Josh Simmons had best tape of any OT last year. And they aren't very concerned with recovery on the torn patella tendon. More of the concern is maturity/character. But he's going to the ideal, veteran-laden place.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) April 25, 2025

the #chiefs get LT Josh Simmons out of Ohio State. If Simmons didn't suffer a torn patellar tendon he would have been the first tackle off the board. I had one team tell me he was the most athletic and talented tackle tape they watched. There are some maturity issues, but this…

— James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs have selected #OSU OT Josh Simmons at No. 32, a player recovering nicely from a torn patellar tendon. They are comfortable with his rehab and did endless homework on it. https://t.co/awdb0JhPed

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 25, 2025

The #Chiefs are selecting Ohio State LT Josh Simmons at No. 32 to close out Round 1.

A key addition to bolster the offensive line in front of Patrick Mahomes. pic.twitter.com/oBx2CjzmCe

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) April 25, 2025

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Don't believe the hype, this will be a redshirt year

Yea, Andy is somehow getting MORE optimistic as TC gets closer, but it's just a ruse!

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Kiimo

Josh Simmons is further ahead in his rehab than Coach Reid thought he would be at this point. Good news.

— Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) May 29, 2025

They just keep saying it. They don't have to, but they do. Promising

It’s wild how so many people not knowing the facts keep disputing what the people with the actual info know.

And BTW before another idiot asks about what the other 31 teams didn’t know, 31 teams weren’t looking for a LT.

So the real question is what did the other 4-5 teams miss? I don’t know maybe the same shit they missed on Trey Smith or Creed or McDuffie or any other number of value picks we drafted.

[RunKC]

Andy reiterated that he thinks Simmons will be ready for camp. This doesn’t seem like a redshirt season at all

[Balto]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Nobody gives a shit what you write.

I guess you realized who the "FEW CPers" included?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

It’s wild how so many people not knowing the facts keep disputing what the people with the actual info know.

And BTW before another idiot asks about what the other 31 teams didn’t know, 31 teams weren’t looking for a LT.

So the real question is what did the other 4-5 teams miss? I don’t know maybe the same shit they missed on Trey Smith or Creed or McDuffie or any other number of value picks we drafted.

If he's the LT prospect I've been told here, quite a few teams would have probably been interested in upgrading.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by O.city

If he's the LT prospect I've been told here, quite a few teams would have probably been interested in upgrading.

But teams were scared of the injury and couldn’t afford the risk. Or they hate nose rings. Or they just wanted other players.

There are a zillion reasons, man. None of them have to be an indictment against Simmons.

The draft is a crapshoot

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Balto

Damn we still crying about his knee and how a few people are butthurt? Get over it...Chiefs drafted him, be happy.

That being said, I can see it know.....Josh has a bad game his rookie year-FEW CPers will point to the knee "I told you so"....5 years from now Josh has a bad game-FEW CPers will point to the knee " I told you so"......Josh's final year of a 12+ year HoF career he has a bad game.....FEW CPers will point to the knee "I told you so" and "Could have played for 20 years if it wasn't for his knee, I TOLD YOU SO".

Josh Simmons has a false start....."HIS KNEE HIS KNEE, I TOLD YOU SO!"

Josh Simmons misses a game because his wife is in labor....."HIS KNEE HIS KNEE, I TOLD YOU SO!"

Stock market crashes "HIS KNEE HIS KNEE, I TOLD YOU SO!"

Your strawman fan fiction is somehow worse than your trade ideas. That's saying something.

No one needs this reminder from you or anyone else. The skeptics all WANT it to work, because the die is cast.

Originally Posted by Kiimo

Josh Simmons is further ahead in his rehab than Coach Reid thought he would be at this point. Good news.

— Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) May 29, 2025

They just keep saying it. They don't have to, but they do. Promising

Yeah, that is great news.

Originally Posted by RunKC

Andy reiterated that he thinks Simmons will be ready for camp. This doesn’t seem like a redshirt season at all

No, it doesn't. I was never as firm a believer in that as some. The redshirt component seemed to be folks who were mostly in the pro-Simmons camp.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Palangi

Yet there are a handful of “know it all web md’s” just itching to do it

Nope, not at all. Your predictive skills are as good as your reading comprehension.

(drawing it in crayon: They're bad. They're both bad).

Now, run along, chug some antifreeze, and find a flaming dumpster to take a nap in. Your and ideiot.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

I don't think it's really that significant. It could just be that they thought there was no chance he'd recover, but after examining him they believe there is a 50/50 chance. Because a lot of teams could benefit from getting a LT and none of those teams had a medical staff that thought he'd be worthy of a 1st round pick. What did the Chiefs medical team see that no other team saw?

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[TRR]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Don't believe the hype, this will be a redshirt year

I am with you, and completely fine with that. I think it's 50/50 to ask a healthy, rookie LT to win the job over a four year veteran LT, but odds are very slim a rookie LT recovering from this significant of a knee injury would win the job. Everything I've read on a full tear points to year two as the litmus test.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea, Andy is somehow getting MORE optimistic as TC gets closer, but it's just a ruse!

Trying to motivate players is part of the gig, and he may be ahead of schedule but that doesn't mean he's a penciled in starter in front of the newly signed LT FA for 30 mill for the next 2 years.

[kccrow]

Balto et al...

Nobody is going to sit here and claim "I told you so" over stupid shit.

It really is just one of two outcomes... He either beats unforgiving odds, plays, and becomes a rock-solid player, or he succumbs to those odds and never turns into much of anything.

Those of us who were against taking him in round 1 were against it because, given the injury type, the latter is much more likely than the former. But with that, all of us are on the same team, now that the Chiefs made that move, in the hope of the former.

Nobody is sitting here saying, "God, I really hope that Josh Simmons kid busts so we can wipe it in everyone's faces when he does." That's absolutely ridiculous.

This isn't and never has been a talent question, at least in speaking for myself. I think he showed enough talent in college to be a very good LT prospect. This is not the same as my criticism of Veach for drafting Willie Gay based purely on athletic traits over Logan Wilson, who had the production to go with solid, albeit lesser, athleticism. That was a talent issue. And with that, I haven't personally been overly critical of too many of his picks.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by TRR

I am with you, and completely fine with that. I think it's 50/50 to ask a healthy, rookie LT to win the job over a four year veteran LT, but odds are very slim a rookie LT recovering from this significant of a knee injury would win the job. Everything I've read on a full tear points to year two as the litmus test.

I'm skeptical but ultimately pretty indifferent either way.

Like you said, it's hard for a rookie to win an NFL job, harder still for one who hasn't played football in almost a year. Especially when said player simply didn't play high level competition last time he was on the field.

That said -- if he wins the job, that's fine. It would mean that Moore disappointed fairly quickly or that he exploded onto the scene. If Moore disappoints, its a good thing we have Simmons. If he explodes on the scene, Moore turns into an expensive insurance policy.

I don't think it's likely that Simmons gets the job but if he does...aight. At that point you just hope it goes well. Because I think it was Andrew Whitworth who once said "The only thing harder than earning a job in the NFL is keeping it..."

Winning the job is step 1. Hell, Kinglsley won a job. Skyy Moore won a job. So you hope the pedigree plays up and the guy's NFL ready; if not on Day 1, then fairly quickly.

Because the musical chairs shit hurt us just as badly as the performance in a vacuum last season. We really don't want to be trying to build the plane as we're flying it. If he's the day 1 starter, it needs to be based on his ability to play on day 1. And if we're wrong and we have to turn back to Moore, that's gonna set us back a spell. That's about a worst case scenario.

Which is ultimately why I think Moore will have an edge going into the season. There's just a lot more on film for him against NFL competition. He's a LOT easier to project for the first half (or more) of the season.

[SAGA45]

Good stuff here from Reid on Simmons and a few other players at OTAs. Seems Simmons surprised them a bit, and they might ramp up his participation.

[Palangi]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Nope, not at all. Your predictive skills are as good as your reading comprehension.

(drawing it in crayon: They're bad. They're both bad).

Now, run along, chug some antifreeze, and find a flaming dumpster to take a nap in. Your and ideiot.

And your web MD means as much as the shit I took this morning.