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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***
![]() Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB. In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title. Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore. We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa. Now, let's talk about the offseason: LINK TO 2016-18 PAYROLL INFO COURTESY OF ROYALS REVIEW The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully). First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts. Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things. If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc. I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk. Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth? Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years. Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list). Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period. The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer. I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be: 1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160). Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura) 2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016. Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell. After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart. 3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season. 4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time. And, as always, here are the Prospects: Duncan’s Top 20 for 2016:
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Agreed on Gordo to the Sox. That would rub me the wrong way.
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There's two different blu-Ray/DVDs. The collectors edition,which is several discs or the WS film, which I imagine only focuses on the WS. I haven't bought either because all the post season games are still on my DVR, but I've read the collectors edition covers most of the post season. Still not much regular season footage. Bummer. Games like "Paulo Homo" and the division clicher should be commemorated
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Yeah, the reviews so far in Amazon say the same. I think fans are usually too critical of these things, but taking the first 10 minutes or so to build up to the World Series would've been nice. Especially since this particular team had such an amazing run and did things no other team has done, and all that coming off a year where they were 90 feet away from game 7. They had a great narrative for a documentary. They don't even get into all the historic comebacks until game 4 of the WS.
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From Blu-Ray's review... an unbiased perspective.
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@jonmorosi: #Royals presently in contact with representatives for Yovani Gallardo, sources confirm. Scott Kazmir is also on their list. @FOXSports
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Hard for me to get excited about either of those guys at this point in their careers but maybe Dayton strikes Edinson like gold again in the bargain bin...
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I would look at a guy like Lincecum as a true bargain bin opportunity. |
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It was also hard for us to get really excited about any of our acquisitions last season. We were just hoping that even two of Morales, Rios, Volquez, and Young would figure something out. It's definitely where GMDM and his staff excel.
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Does Gallardo have a pick attached?
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Yes.
I said it awhile ago, but he's a really odd fit for KC. His stuff isn't what it once was and the Royals can make just about anybody's stuff play up due to the combination of their park and their defense. Why would you pay big money and give up a pick for a guy that's not going to be demonstrably better than Chris Young would be? I really don't understand the pursuit here.
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Yost loves him, and while his K rate has been dropping, he still got the job done at a decent level in Texas. I imagine they think he plays up a little bit with the spacious confines of the K and the Royals D behind him. Kazmir makes more sense because he's better and doesn't cost a pick. But Gallardo would be a stabilizing factor in he rotation and good bet to chew innings at better than league average rates. Not nuts about it but wouldn't be upset with it. And honestly, I could be made to see the sense in having Gallardo for 3/39 rather than Leake for 5/90. Or Kazmir for 4/60.
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I just figured that coming off his age 29 season he'd be holding out for a 4 year deal. Maybe the AAV sticks at 13 but I'd think you'd still need to go a 4th year.
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Not sure. Just throwing out figures. If he and Kazmir are both at four years, I'd prefer Kazmir unless there's a huge gap in AAV. Market is hard to predict, though.
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