***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

The radiologists are the worst.

True dat, they can be dicks we only have one rad and he is only on site two days a week so we don’t deal with them too much.

[O.city]

Santa Clara said they won’t be having big crowds til after thanksgiving

So the 9ers either won’t have home games or ....

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Santa Clara said they won’t be having big crowds til after thanksgiving

So the 9ers either won’t have home games or ....

You seriously have to wonder, where do statements like that come from? Based on what information?

I am not going to get political but those kind of blanket statements sound like they are politically motivated.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Santa Clara said they won’t be having big crowds til after thanksgiving

So the 9ers either won’t have home games or ....

WTF? See, it's that kind of shit that irks the **** out of me. It's ****ing April and you're already telling people to basically cancel Christmas. I mean come the **** on!

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Doctors remind me of lawyers when their stuff doesn't work right. They throw a temper tantrum and act like it's the end of the world. Nurses on the other hand will work around shit until it gets fixed. When a nurse calls and is yelling at us it is usually a real ****ing problem, not just an inconvenience.

My wife have never thrown a tantrum but I had seen some lose their shit, ER nurses ca be cranky but they deal with a a lot of stupidity there.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You seriously have to wonder, where do statements like that come from? Based on what information?

I am not going to get political but those kind of blanket statements sound like they are politically motivated.

Political or not they are just plain ****ing uninformed. There is no way to say right now that it would be necessary to do such a thing.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by O.city

Santa Clara said they won’t be having big crowds til after thanksgiving

So the 9ers either won’t have home games or ....

Wow really?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

WTF? See, it's that kind of shit that irks the **** out of me. It's ****ing April and you're already telling people to basically cancel Christmas. I mean come the **** on!

It makes ZERO sense and I am certain not a poster here could make sense of it.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Does anyone wanna take a guess when we have things like sporting events with fans in attendance again?

This is going to be resolved when we have a safe vaccine and everyone get vaccinated jut like we did for polio. there's no way around it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

My wife have never thrown a tantrum but I had seen some lose their shit, ER nurses ca be cranky but they deal with a a lot of stupidity there.

I have had nurses call and say they have patient impacting issues and when it's something that is going to take time to figure out they go on and work around it.

I have had doctors absolutely lose their shit because the email on their personal device is slow or not working right.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Political or not they are just plain ****ing uninformed. There is no way to say right now that it would be necessary to do such a thing.

Think about it, the model is shrinking by 25% about every 5 days and they put a statement like that out. Makes ZERO sense.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

This is going to be resolved when we have a safe vaccine and everyone get vaccinated jut like we did for polio. there's no way around it.

If true were talking atleast January before any kind of vaccine would be ready I would think?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

This is going to be resolved when we have a safe vaccine and everyone get vaccinated jut like we did for polio. there's no way around it.

IF we have a vaccine...we may not ever have one.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Its been reported for several days now that the at home deaths are being counted now.

Just like its been reported that almost everyone with a positive Covid test who dies for any reason is counted as a Covid death.

I haven’t seen the report about home deaths being counted do you have a link?
And they do not just put covid on death certificate for no reason , we debunked that yesterday in here.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

This is going to be resolved when we have a safe vaccine and everyone get vaccinated jut like we did for polio. there's no way around it.

If you look at data from Italy, herd immunity will hit sooner than the vaccine.