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**TribalElder** · 12-31-2014, 07:23 PM

What bowl game you watching?

GloryDayz · 01-02-2015, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Since there were disses of FSU players not shaking hands of the Oregon players, which I agree was classless, it apparently is not limited to FSU or just Jameis acting immature.

Adding insult to a blowout loss...#Oregon giving Jameis a shoutout with the "no means no" tomahawk chop chant. Video in link. It was done outside of camera range but someone caught it.

PASADENA, Calif. (AP) -- Several Oregon players are facing team discipline after celebrating their Rose Bowl win Thursday night by mocking Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston and allegations of sexual assault that have followed the 2013 Heisman Trophy winner the past two years.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6405182.html

This is what you call a witch hunt.

Is there a requirement to shake hands after a football game? I know every has to in little league baseball, but they don't in the majors, so there's no set rule on it to say the least. In wrestling it's a well know suggestion to be there to shake hands and have the winner's hand then raised by the official. And occasionally I've seen a depressed football player stay on the bench to ponder life as the others smile a kiss at the 50 - yet they remain employed.

And I only ask because I've never been to thrilled to watch our Chiefs get their asses kicked then be Mr. Nice Guy afterwards. Poor sport?? Perhaps, but I'm not sure a DE should want to shake hands with a guy who just held him for 10+ plays "and now all is forgotten"!

So, whatever these guys are being accused of happens everyday in baseball, so the question needs to be asked, is it really all that bad?

And last, if all this post-game love is needed perhaps the officials should refrain from running to their locker room and mill around smartly amongst the varying levels of players and team leadership and squeeze some skin.

I'm not offended, these guys don't need to shake hands for me to like them, and if they don't shake hands I'm fine with it... If one player is offended by it, if they meet again, hit them all the harder on the field and tell them they'd have gone easy on them but "you didn't shake my hand last year"!!!

**the Talking Can** · 01-02-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Let's see. Paid tutition , room and board, clothing , travel expense and gift as bowl game. Private tutors the list goes on.

Yeah I will trade them mine , my wife's daughters and sons college debt to not get paid to play a game.

Shut up with that stupid shit.

do you and your family generate billions in revenue?

because otherwise comparing your worthless family to kids who generate $$$$ for everyone but themselves is pretty ****ing stupid

**Saul Good** · 01-02-2015, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

do you and your family generate billions in revenue?

because otherwise comparing your worthless family to kids who generate $$$$ for everyone but themselves is pretty ****ing stupid

What is five years of getting the best coaching, training, access to facilities, and weekly televised auditions for jobs that pay millions of dollars a year worth?

GloryDayz · 01-02-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

This was a case of pure cheating. While most ncaa violations are due to their own players getting paid by boosters and alumni, Oregon used their own money to get a recruiting advantage. It is absolutely nuts that Oregon got a slap on the wrist.

As much as I hate them, I hate them because they think outside the box and are willing to do whatever it takes to build a powerhouse team. MIZZOU basketball, for example, might want to look at this and realize that a slight hand-slap might be worth it. Not that you don't keep doing other things too, but I find the problem being that when only one team is stretching the limits of the rules (and even thumbing their noses at the establishment) and only getting slight hand-slaps, that you have to do the same or end up being a non-powerhouse. And let's face it, to the college "college sports" is as much about getting their name out there as it is anything else. And when you're in a less than awesome physical location, it's difficult to get great high school prospects to come there to play instead of a sexier city (to an 18-year-old). IOW, what awesome kid from Anytown, USA wants to play in Ames, IA instead of L.A. or Miami? You have to give a basketball prodigy a reason to want Lawrence, KS for their college years instead of Miami - and KU's basketball program is one hell of a good reason to suffer Lawrence, KS!

Anyway, **** Oregon and them thinking outside the box!

**the Talking Can** · 01-02-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

What is five years of getting the best coaching, training, access to facilities, and weekly televised auditions for jobs that pay millions of dollars a year worth?

we already know, how ever much ESPN is paying to air the games...

the kids aren't getting .00001% of the revenue they generate, while fat ass coaches make commercials and get rich beyond belief off them (the kids)

everyone gets cold, hard cash but the people who generate money

**Saul Good** · 01-02-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

we already know, how ever much ESPN is paying to air the games...

the kids aren't getting .00001% of the revenue they generate, while fat ass coaches make commercials and get rich beyond belief off them (the kids)

everyone gets cold, hard cash but the people who generate money

If its not worth it, don't play college football. Go sack groceries instead of quarterbacks.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-02-2015, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

What is five years of getting the best coaching, training, access to facilities, and weekly televised auditions for jobs that pay millions of dollars a year worth?

How many companies employ people who get to use expensive machinery they couldn't otherwise afford on their own? Should we not pay them either?

brucey_72 · 01-02-2015, 10:27 AM

OSU fan here, what a hell of a game. With a 3rd QB and beat the #1, anyone who is saying they dont belong is a blatant dumbass.

That being said, Oregon offense is too powerful.
Oregon- 42
Ohio State- 34

**Saul Good** · 01-02-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

How many companies employ people who get to use expensive machinery they couldn't otherwise afford on their own? Should we not pay them either?

I don't know. Are they interns learning a trade in the process so that they can turn around and make millions of dollars the next year?

**the Talking Can** · 01-02-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

If its not worth it, don't play college football. Go sack groceries instead of quarterbacks.

that's your answer, gramps?

corporations get free labor for the product they sell, and this makes sense to you? based on economics? simple morality?

it's so rigged people can't even see it...these kids are having millions of dollars stolen from them

**the Talking Can** · 01-02-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I don't know. Are they interns learning a trade in the process so that they can turn around and make millions of dollars the next year?

can you tell me what other industry makes billions off of 'interns?'

jesus

Prison Bitch · 01-02-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

that's your answer, gramps?

corporations get free labor for the product they sell, and this makes sense to you? based on economics? simple morality?

it's so rigged people can't even see it...these kids are having millions of dollars stolen from them

If you're looking for an intelligent discussion on something, don't look to ReRun or Saul. It is pointless.

Fortunately the world is moving away from te idea players are mindless drones who should do what they're told and shut their mouths. Stipends are here, and a cut of the revenue is only a matter of time. In 30 years we will look back and laugh at the old arguments.

**Saul Good** · 01-02-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

can you tell me what other industry makes billions off of 'interns?'

jesus

Law and medicine

**Saul Good** · 01-02-2015, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

If you're looking for an intelligent discussion on something, don't look to ReRun or Saul. It is pointless.

Fortunately the world is moving away from te idea players are mindless drones who should do what they're told and shut their mouths. Stipends are here, and a cut of the revenue is only a matter of time. In 30 years we will look back and laugh at the old arguments.

They get a cut of revenue now. Giving them a very slightly larger cut isn't going to change the argument materially.

GloryDayz · 01-02-2015, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

If you're looking for an intelligent discussion on something, don't look to ReRun or Saul. It is pointless.

Fortunately the world is moving away from te idea players are mindless drones who should do what they're told and shut their mouths. Stipends are here, and a cut of the revenue is only a matter of time. In 30 years we will look back and laugh at the old arguments.

With the law suits you have to wonder what the football landscape will look like in 30 years regardless. So the guys who hit the frozen tundra wearing bubble suits might not be commanding the same coin they do today. Who knows, maybe they earn more (cost-shifted of course) than today because they can run a bubble-suited 40 in under 4.4...

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brucey_72 Starter Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $10007751	OSU fan here, what a hell of a game. With a 3rd QB and beat the #1, anyone who is saying they dont belong is a blatant dumbass. That being said, Oregon offense is too powerful. Oregon- 42 Ohio State- 34
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