Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 127

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

bricks · 11-10-2018, 08:44 PM

I think we should all move on from this. No need to get caught up on this. Its ****ing draining and negative energy. I'd rather focus on Eric Murray or Daniel Sorenson or something see how they could help out the D.

Now you could bash me about that. But **** man its better than holding onto hope and wishing for Berry to come back. Now its obvious and a no brainer that Berry would have more of an impact if he came back than seeing the development of Eric Murray. But maybe not? He might suck? And not be the same. Then if he does suck, all this worry and concern would be about nothing. That would be the ultimate suckage right there.

At this point, I'd rather focus and place my hope on seeing a guy like Eric Murray develop rather focus on a situation in where there is a slight glim of hope. And if that doesn't work out, there is always next year. Maybe they draft a safety? Maybe they sign Earl Thomas in the off-season? Or maybe Berry has surgery and comes back next year and is amazing? Ok, **** all these questions, Im driving myself nuts. I attribute that to this thread being so ****ing long.

Flying High D · 11-10-2018, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

People really calling this guy a pussy? Beating cancer in one NFL offseason and coming back ready to play in a grown mans league is Tougher than anything you guys have ever done

How many bullets were flying at him during this time?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-10-2018, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Big contracts should be offered to Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce.

Everyone else gets the Patriots treatment.

Unfortunately, meritocracy is dead in this league and has been replaced with an inflated, easily manipulated criteria known as "market value". That cap money we were supposed to be saving post-2010 rookie contracts???
Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.

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Originally Posted by notorious

It didn’t help that Dorsey waited a year too long to re-sign Houston and Berry.

And you can put that SQUARELY on Reid and Axl McMicropeen.

Jesus titty-dancing, monkey****ing SHIT this pisses me off! How hard is it to sit at your desk and ask yourself, "who are statistically more likely to have productive seasons; my all-pro Safety, my all-pro Linebacker, or my game-managing, cucktarded QB who HASN'T THROWN A TD TO A ****ING WIDEOUT ALL SEASON?!?!?!?

GEE?!?!? WHICH COULD IT POSSIBLY ****ING BE?!?!?

And you know what? I don't find Dorsey to be that ****ing stupid. Not by a WIDE margin. So who put it in his ear to perform such a dumbassed, unnecessary move, mmm???

Signing that ****ing prick a year before necessary was the DUMBEST goddamned move the Chiefs pulled throughout the entire Reid/Dorsey partnership; the fallout it created still ripples through the pond in a very bad way.

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn

Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back.

You are a sad piece of shit. Please do better or go away.

TambaBerry · 11-10-2018, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn

You little ****ing pussy ass bitches complaining about him being called day-to-day are barking up the wrong tree. That is all Andy Reid speak, so be pissed at him. If it was hoodie giving some empty answer like d2d you’d all be saying he’s so smart for being coy.

If Reid said he was out till after the bye from the jump, would you all still be belly aching like some jilted pansy asses? Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back. He earned more of his contract in the one game that he shit down Gronk than Alex ever did.

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You're a ****ing pussy bitch, we were talking shit on Sorenson and he makes a fraction of what Eric Berry makes so take that race card shove it into your pussy and twist and thrash it around until you bleed out

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-10-2018, 11:34 PM

Another day of morons who call in with a cold bitching about a guy that has a serious injury impacting his ability to perform. Idiots...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-10-2018, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Another day to day to day to day to day to day to day to day...with Moron McOneArrowhead, yes...

.

chinaski · 11-10-2018, 11:53 PM

Dr. Andrews give me the news
I’ve got a bad case of Haglund’s Blues
I’ve got a bad case of Haglund’s Blues

TEX · 11-11-2018, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brooklyn

You little ****ing pussy ass bitches complaining about him being called day-to-day are barking up the wrong tree. That is all Andy Reid speak, so be pissed at him. If it was hoodie giving some empty answer like d2d you’d all be saying he’s so smart for being coy.

If Reid said he was out till after the bye from the jump, would you all still be belly aching like some jilted pansy asses? Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back. He earned more of his contract in the one game that he shit down Gronk than Alex ever did.

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You just might be the biggest idiot on this board. Do you have special needs? If so, I apologize. If not, you're just a ****ing moron.

**007** · 11-11-2018, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

You just might be the biggest idiot on this board. Do you have special needs? If so, I apologize. If not, you're just a ****ing moron.

There is a downvote button for a reason. Please go use it on this jack wagon.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-11-2018, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 007

There is a downvote button for a reason. Please go use it on this jack wagon.

Done.

**New World Order** · 11-11-2018, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooklyn

You little ****ing pussy ass bitches complaining about him being called day-to-day are barking up the wrong tree. That is all Andy Reid speak, so be pissed at him. If it was hoodie giving some empty answer like d2d you’d all be saying he’s so smart for being coy.

If Reid said he was out till after the bye from the jump, would you all still be belly aching like some jilted pansy asses? Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back. He earned more of his contract in the one game that he shit down Gronk than Alex ever did.

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Pasta Little Brioni · 11-11-2018, 10:18 AM

Glory coached hockey with a hangnail once...tough dude

GloryDayz · 11-11-2018, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Glory coached hockey with a hangnail once...tough dude

Brah, you mad that I have as many tackles as Berry this year?

**Easy 6** · 11-11-2018, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooklyn

You little ****ing pussy ass bitches complaining about him being called day-to-day are barking up the wrong tree. That is all Andy Reid speak, so be pissed at him. If it was hoodie giving some empty answer like d2d you’d all be saying he’s so smart for being coy.

If Reid said he was out till after the bye from the jump, would you all still be belly aching like some jilted pansy asses? Again, people are mad that a black dude secured the bag and now that he can’t entertain them it’s time to turn around and demand he gives it back. He earned more of his contract in the one game that he shit down Gronk than Alex ever did.

So its been about him being black all along, huh

Eat shit, loser

GloryDayz · 11-11-2018, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

So its been about him being black all along, huh

Eat shit, loser

Clearly we've been less harsh on the likes of Alex and cASSHOLE...

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $536899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9902559	I think we should all move on from this. No need to get caught up on this. Its **ing draining and negative energy. I'd rather focus on Eric Murray or Daniel Sorenson or something see how they could help out the D. Now you could bash me about that. But man its better than holding onto hope and wishing for Berry to come back. Now its obvious and a no brainer that Berry would have more of an impact if he came back than seeing the development of Eric Murray. But maybe not? He might suck? And not be the same. Then if he does suck, all this worry and concern would be about nothing. That would be the ultimate suckage right there. At this point, I'd rather focus and place my hope on seeing a guy like Eric Murray develop rather focus on a situation in where there is a slight glim of hope. And if that doesn't work out, there is always next year. Maybe they draft a safety? Maybe they sign Earl Thomas in the off-season? Or maybe Berry has surgery and comes back next year and is amazing? Ok, all these questions, Im driving myself nuts. I attribute that to this thread being so **ing long. __________________ Adopt a chief: Pat Mahomes baby!
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