***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by notorious

This. I don’t give a shit who gets blamed or who gets credit, just solve the problem.

^

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Some ppl want social distancing and trust Fauci/Bill Gates and other medical experts

Bill Gates is a "medical expert"?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Meh. I think you can open up limited in places. By limited I mean restaurants and bars having limited number of guests, etc.

OK all agreed? Lets schedule the press conference, Chiefs Planet is giving the go ahead!

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by O.city

That's the same as it's always been. We just have a vocal minority on social media today that we hear it from.

Most people just wanna get this over with either way.

Maybe not over with but at least start moving that direction would do wonders for morale. Being over wirh is a long ways off.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Maybe not over with but at least start moving that direction would do wonders for morale. Being over wirh is a long ways off.

Then you agree we can't jump the gun?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Meh. I think you can open up limited in places. By limited I mean restaurants and bars having limited number of guests, etc.

And re-open the haircut places.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

If I had an easy way to do it, I'd start a thread with a different approach:

Anyone who has >100 posts in DC in the past 12 months 100% isn't allowed. No exceptions.

I have less of an issue with "politics" than I do with "people who like talking about politics." The ceaseless bickering is just exhausting for me to read.

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

The longer it drags the more the divide, yes.

Yeah people are getting frustrated. Unbelievable all the technology we have and we getting our asses kicked by a virus. Way more money and manpower needs to be devoted to virus in the future. This one isnt even that lethal it just spreads like crazy. Imagine if it had a higher death rate among young ppl we'd be screwed

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Meh. I think you can open up limited in places. By limited I mean restaurants and bars having limited number of guests, etc.

Yes. Movie theaters could open but limit the numbers of viewers and have them separated out for example

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Bill Gates is a "medical expert"?

I'm pretty hungover so not thinking completely clear. No he isn't but he has been fighting diseases in poor countries for years, he predicted this would happen and he is a genius so when he talks I listen

[OnTheWarpath15]

Call me crazy, but I'd like to have a much, MUCH better idea of who actually has this virus and is asymptomatic before letting them all loose on society again.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Then you agree we can't jump the gun?

It can't look like you just dropped the rope holding back the kids at the Easter Egg hunt. It needs to measured but needs to start before the end of the month.

I believe that's how and when it will go.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yes. Movie theaters could open but limit the numbers of viewers and have them separated out for example

Are you taking into account how much business they need to bring in to make a profit?

Theres no point in opening back up if restrictions left in place mean they are operating at a loss. They'll just remain closed.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Are you taking into account how much business they need to bring in to make a profit?

Theres no point in opening back up if restrictions left in place mean they are operating at a loss. They'll just remain closed.

That's up to them. You have to start somewhere.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Are you taking into account how much business they need to bring in to make a profit?

Theres no point in opening back up if restrictions left in place mean they are operating at a loss. They'll just remain closed.

operating at a loss vs complete loss?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's up to them.

Not really.