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Lifted this morning, then did spin class, then lifted a little bit more after. Cumulative fatigue phase is OVER! Time to get back into strength training. Thank god.
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Could that be for ripping as well? When I think of mass building, my mind is fixated strictly towards compound movements such as olympic lifts, i.e., bench presses, squats, deadlifts, clean and jerks...and doing these lifts but more so in a pyramid form of training and working to failure. for example, I start off light w/ my 1st set, and do 15 reps, and then the 2nd set I go heavier and decrease the reps(to lets say 10), 3rd set I go heavier and decrease the reps again(lets say 6 reps this time) and so forth...so as Im moving along from set to set I increase the weight but decrease the reps, and go as heavy as I can till I max out to like 1 rep. I don't know? That's the type of training method I used to put on mass...but I was just curious perhaps your way is another remedy? |
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I did a little pyramid work, starting with twelve reps, then ten, then eight and then six, increasing the weight a bit each time, then following that with a lighter fifteen rep set. All of that was with 45 seconds of rest. Then I would do two more exercises that targeted the same muscle group in different ways, starting with a weight I could lift 12 times and then doing three more sets AMRAP. So three exercises per muscle group, little rest, 13 total sets for the muscle group. None of that did any strength training at all, even though by the end of this, I was lifting more weight than when I started. When you're training for mass, failing on a lift is okay. When you're strength training, it's not.
I still did compound movements, like bench, rows, military press, etc. But when I went to do the second and third exercises for the muscle group, that's when I got more specific, like flyes, incline press, lateral raises, pullovers, etc. Never did squats or deads for mass, though. I have enough mass on my legs as it is. Legs stayed purely strength training once a week and will do so for the foreseeable future. Posted via Mobile Device |
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Hey 'lock, is there a way to work your legs and NOT gain mass? I want to continue working them, because they're the largest muscles in the body and therefore burn more calories (correct?), but like you I've got plenty of mass.
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Did my heavy kb routine the way it's meant to be done. Stay on one arm and do:
2 snatches 2 presses 10 hand swings then switch to other arm 2 snatches 2 presses 10 hand swings This is all without stopping the motions and can be done fluidly without resting or setting the kettlebell down. Then go to sets of 3, 3, 15 Then a set of 5, 5, 20 Do the entire circuit 3 times. Ass kicker. Did first 2 sets with a 24kg and the final high rep set with a 20kg. Also worked core and chest.
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It's pretty amazing how quickly a short KB workout will smoke you. F that treadmill nonsense.
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So you did a combination of both pyramid training and straight sets(conventionall training). But, you minimized the rest as much as possible. Wow. That's pretty intense. But a good way to go as well. did you gradually increase the weight week to week as you went along or did you stick w/ the same weight? Interesting though, you could switch up the pyramid training like that. I've seen a lot of people do that where they start off with a weight they could handle for about 10 reps and then they work their way down by decreasing the reps and going heavier. I see what you're doing, I was there at one point, you are tearing the muscle, thats the primary objective since you want it to swell in the process and get bigger. In other words, one could say you are ripping it up! Training to failure I find is the best way for growth! I love it...I've applied a few bodybuilding principles to my training regimen recently. I decided to do both dropsets and supersets. Have you ever tried those? They're crazy and incredibly intense. But I've been noticing results with those type of training methods and found them to be very effective in regards to maximizing my efforts. Training to failure is great but Ive never found a better remedies than both dropsets and supersets. I'd highly reccommend them if you ever consider applying these type of training methods in the future. Quote:
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At some point, the kettlebell may not be enough, and I'll need to supplement with some other HIIT... but for now the kb is doing just fine.
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