NEW OFFICIAL CHIEFS-RAIDERS Game Thread

[AustinChief]

ok, locking the old one, post here...

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

That tight end is about 500 feet tall. He's got to be able to catch that ball and fall forward. Of course, if he'd run the route better and deeper, that would have removed even the fall as an issue.

Then again, he'd probably still have dropped it.

Cassel's #1 ball washer always shows up to console him....



meanwhile Campbell won oakland the game with 2 clutch drives in a row.....


but let's not do anything that would hurt Matty's tender feelings....he tried hard, and that's what matters..

[Champ]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I called this loss.

The Raiders HAD to have this game. If we win their season is essentially over.

They still won't make the playoffs.

You called this loss? Sure buddy. You were telling us all week how the Chiefs were going to dominate the Raiders. Don't be a bitch now that the Chiefs loss to try to save face and say "You called the loss."

[farmerchief]

Originally Posted by boogblaster

we got some bad calls .. they did too .. we had chances to win .. we didnt .. but all in all we need another WR and we need Mc Cluster bak in ball games .......

I agree, the Refs were equally bad for both teams. They really looked inept out there at times. Probably the worst, officiated game I can remember, that I watched all the way through. Still, Oakland made the plays when they had to, and KC didnt. Sad, but true! :-(

[Old Dog]

That was emotionally draining to say the least. If one were to try to assign blame, I would say there is plenty to go around.
McGraw dropping a pick, Berry with a block in the back on a punt return for a TD, Bowe and Moeaki, Cassel, Weis, Haley, just off of the top of my head (which still hurts).

The game was poorly called, but there were shitty calls both ways. All I can take from this is that if I were told we would be 5-3 and in first place after 8 games, I would have taken it.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

That tight end is about 500 feet tall. He's got to be able to catch that ball and fall forward. Of course, if he'd run the route better and deeper, that would have removed even the fall as an issue.

Then again, he'd probably still have dropped it.

Pope makes me miss the days of Jason Dunn, a TE that could block and catch a pass here and there.

Problem with that route was the Pope was running sideways with a defender draped on him, it would have been tough to get the first even if he caught the ball. That pattern can work if no one picks him like, like a pass to a fullback in the flat. But the second Cassel saw a defender close by, he should have scanned the field, others were open past the sticks. I am sure there is a pic in the Gif'd up thread showing that, knowing the Horsey.

[spanky 52]

Originally Posted by Swanman

Pope makes me miss the days of Jason Dunn, a TE that could block and catch a pass here and there.

Problem with that route was the Pope was running sideways with a defender draped on him, it would have been tough to get the first even if he caught the ball. That pattern can work if no one picks him like, like a pass to a fullback in the flat. But the second Cassel saw a defender close by, he should have scanned the field, others were open past the sticks. I am sure there is a pic in the Gif'd up thread showing that, knowing the Horsey.

Dunn wasn't flashy but he was solid. Good player. On the play in question I believe Bowe was ahead of his man crossing the middle. We're gradually getting better but we're handicapped at the QB position.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Swanman

Pope makes me miss the days of Jason Dunn, a TE that could block and catch a pass here and there.

Problem with that route was the Pope was running sideways with a defender draped on him, it would have been tough to get the first even if he caught the ball. That pattern can work if no one picks him like, like a pass to a fullback in the flat. But the second Cassel saw a defender close by, he should have scanned the field, others were open past the sticks. I am sure there is a pic in the Gif'd up thread showing that, knowing the Horsey.

It appeared to be another of those plays that Cassel has made up his mind the moment the ball is snapped where he's going to throw it.

I dunno, maybe Weis has taught him to do that, to eliminate sacks and minimize chances Cassel will make the wrong read, and they figure more often than not Cassel will complete the pass and they'll get positive yardage.

But it makes for frustrating moments when you see open guys elsewhere, where if he had just taken another second or two to scan the field he could've had a big play.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

It appeared to be another of those plays that Cassel has made up his mind the moment the ball is snapped where he's going to throw it.

I dunno, maybe Weis has taught him to do that, to eliminate sacks and minimize chances Cassel will make the wrong read, and they figure more often than not Cassel will complete the pass and they'll get positive yardage.

But it makes for frustrating moments when you see open guys elsewhere, where if he had just taken another second or two to scan the field he could've had a big play.

he had a pocket, there was no reason to panic

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

It appeared to be another of those plays that Cassel has made up his mind the moment the ball is snapped where he's going to throw it.

I dunno, maybe Weis has taught him to do that, to eliminate sacks and minimize chances Cassel will make the wrong read, and they figure more often than not Cassel will complete the pass and they'll get positive yardage.

But it makes for frustrating moments when you see open guys elsewhere, where if he had just taken another second or two to scan the field he could've had a big play.

He scanned the field from left to right on that throw.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by Champ

You called this loss? Sure buddy. You were telling us all week how the Chiefs were going to dominate the Raiders. Don't be a bitch now that the Chiefs loss to try to save face and say "You called the loss."

Uh yeah I called it. My prediction was Raiders 17 Chiefs 13 I believe.

Want me to link it?

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

He scanned the field from left to right on that throw.

I just rewatched it and I think he looked left as a fake and then immediately turned to the right to get it to Pope. I didn't see any scanning. Maybe there was supposed to be something open quickly on the left? Still looked like a fake left but going to the right to me.

[DBOSHO]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

We had chances to end the game. Bowe makes the catch instead of the ball bouncing off his chest.Knock the ****ing ball down instead of trying for personal stats with an INT and we win. It was moronic stupid BS. I don't have the issues others have with our coaching staff as much. Special teams starting the 2nd half was a ****ing joke. Even the FG we made but had an offsides penalty. We had 17 ****ing points pulled off the board in this game only 7 of which we got back.

How is it personal stats? If he picks that, which 99.9 times out of 100 he does, the game is over. Ford just made a good play, but flowers definitely shouldve held onto that ball.

He just had a really bad game.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by DBOSHO

How is it personal stats? If he picks that, which 99.9 times out of 100 he does, the game is over. Ford just made a good play, but flowers definitely shouldve held onto that ball.

He just had a really bad game.

Game is over if he just knocks the ball down. YOu knock the ball down in that situation.