Chiefs Pioli Deserves Props - Page 13

Hoover · 04-29-2012, 09:12 AM

The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.

**J Diddy** · 04-29-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

You can also build a pretty strong case that the best players on this team are still ones that were inherited from that 2-14 team too! Charles, Albert, and Bowe on the offense... Hali, DJ, Dorsey and Flowers on the defense... Colquitt as your punter.

and you can argue that without him Hali, Dj and Dorsey wouldn't be here. You could also argue that Bowe wouldn't be the player he is. To me Albert's still up in the air.

milkman · 04-29-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

How arent we?

We won the division in 2010 and were a game off of a repeat this year...if not for three crushing injuries early on, we repeat as division champs.

We have continued to build quality depth and adding quality starters via the draft and free agency and are a much better team than even the 2010 squad.

I think Pioli deserves the credit for a lot of that, just like he is due all of the blame for the way the quarterback position has been handled.

It's only fair.

Until we have more than one playoff appearence in years, we are not perennial playoff contenders.

This team has potential to be perennial playoff contenders, but we can not yet make that claim.

BoneKrusher · 04-29-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Until we have more than one playoff appearence in years, we are not perennial playoff contenders.

This team has potential to be perennial playoff contenders, but we can not yet make that claim.

like someone else said, if we play the NFC West every season we could be.

Blick · 04-29-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Remember: We have the worst QB in the division. History is not on our side.

Where did Cassel and Tebow rank in the division when they won it the last two years?

**BossChief** · 04-29-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Until we have more than one playoff appearence in years, we are not perennial playoff contenders.

This team has potential to be perennial playoff contenders, but we can not yet make that claim.

Dude.

We almost beat Pittsburgh with Tyler ****ing Palko at quarterback and missing 3 of our best players.

The last two years, we have been "in the playoff hunt" and we are easily a better team in 2012.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 02:15 PM

We're better, and so are the Raiders and Broncos.

We'll finish 3rd or 4th.

BoneKrusher · 04-29-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

We're better, and so are the Raiders and Broncos.

We'll finish 3rd or 4th.

not sure about Raiders but i know for sure the Broncos are better.
Manning alone makes Broncos the favorite to win a weak division.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick

Where did Cassel and Tebow rank in the division when they won it the last two years?

Shut the **** up, Blick.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

not sure about Raiders but i know for sure the Broncos are better.
Manning alone makes Broncos the favorite to win a weak division.

Dude, the Raiders had scab QBs running their team half the season last year.

That's probably a 10-6 squad with a full season of Carson Palmer.

**Bugeater** · 04-29-2012, 02:19 PM

Some of these posts are hilarious, talking about "contending" for a playoff spot as if it's some kind of accomplishment. Most teams aren't mathematically eliminated until the last couple weeks of the season.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Clay, You are the shakespeare of trolling. I love you.

Do you think Orton is a ton better than Quinn?

I really don't know shit about Brady Quinn

It's ****ing night and day.

Orton is a HOFer compared to Quinn.

BoneKrusher · 04-29-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

Dude, the Raiders had scab QBs running their team half the season last year.

That's probably a 10-6 squad with a full season of Carson Palmer.

other than one good season in Cincy i've never been impressed with Carson Palmer.

milkman · 04-29-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Dude.

We almost beat Pittsburgh with Tyler ****ing Palko at quarterback and missing 3 of our best players.

The last two years, we have been "in the playoff hunt" and we are easily a better team in 2012.

"Perennial" requires more than a year in the playoffs, followed by a year just missing them.

It requires a larger amount of time.

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Some of these posts are hilarious, talking about "contending" for a playoff spot as if it's some kind of accomplishment. Most teams aren't mathematically eliminated until the last couple weeks of the season.

We've been "contending for a playoff spot" almost every year the last 20 years, save Haley's first year, Herm's last two seasons, Dick's first season.

7-9 baby, we're competing!!!

Hammock Parties · 04-29-2012, 02:23 PM

Most teams aren't mathetmatically eliminated until Week 15 or 16.

Competing, baby.

04-29-2012, 09:12 AM
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1158179	Pioli Deserves Props The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed. We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them. After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected. Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it. After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team. If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come. Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for. In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well. Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either. We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.
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