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Old 08-23-2018, 08:52 PM   #1
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"#Raiders have put Khalil Mack on the trade block. #Jets, #Packers #Giants (among others) are interested.@JuMosq examines why Oakland’s in this position, where he’ll end up, and how gambling lines play into it all" $$$:https://t.co/g3AB7sYHxs pic.twitter.com/gBwv5NOJMj

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So....

They’re not extending him then?
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Old 08-23-2018, 05:56 PM   #2
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Ah hell, trade him
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:21 PM   #3
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He isn't on the trading block yet... He may be soon but as of now he is not
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:25 PM   #4
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He isn't on the trading block yet... He may be soon but as of now he is not
You’re trying to be as optimistic as you possibly can huh?
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Old 08-24-2018, 04:34 PM   #5
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He isn't on the trading block yet... He may be soon but as of now he is not
So no extension then?
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Old 08-24-2018, 05:24 PM   #6
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So no extension then?
Well they don't have to give him one if they don't want to really..

He is in the last year of his rookie contract that pays him almost 14 million
Then if they want they can tag him for two years.

Raiders really are the ones who hold the leverage...

I would rather have 5 good players than 1 great player... Don't get me wrong, I like Mack but hey the mans gotta do what he's gotta do.

This is the thing that pisses me off about the NFL and contracts...

When players suck they don't give the money back but when they play good they don't want to honor their contract.

Lots of people want to balk because they say Gruden got 100 million... Gruden says it's not 100 million first off and second that money does not go against the cap.

I don't care either way, If he stays great, if he is traded just get his worth.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:19 PM   #7
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Well they don't have to give him one if they don't want to really..

He is in the last year of his rookie contract that pays him almost 14 million
Then if they want they can tag him for two years.

Raiders really are the ones who hold the leverage...

I would rather have 5 good players than 1 great player... Don't get me wrong, I like Mack but hey the mans gotta do what he's gotta do.

This is the thing that pisses me off about the NFL and contracts...

When players suck they don't give the money back but when they play good they don't want to honor their contract.

Lots of people want to balk because they say Gruden got 100 million... Gruden says it's not 100 million first off and second that money does not go against the cap.

I don't care either way, If he stays great, if he is traded just get his worth.
It works both ways. Teams put all these dollars in deals they never have any intention of ever paying.

I have no qualms about any player fighting for what they feel is adequate compensation.

The Raiders are stiffing Mack because they are cap and cash poor.
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As a Chiefs fan i wish the Raiders would get a blockbuster deal done and put them in perpetual cap hell. Honestly, the Raiders are right to not pay him.

That dude is NOT worth a massive contract. The media hype around him is dumb. He's not a game changer.

Look at his numbers. He's aight. He's not dominant and never has been.
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As a Chiefs fan i wish the Raiders would get a blockbuster deal done and put them in perpetual cap hell. Honestly, the Raiders are right to not pay him.

That dude is NOT worth a massive contract. The media hype around him is dumb. He's not a game changer.

Look at his numbers. He's aight. He's not dominant and never has been.

Meh. I'll roll with his backup.
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As a Chiefs fan i wish the Raiders would get a blockbuster deal done and put them in perpetual cap hell. Honestly, the Raiders are right to not pay him.

That dude is NOT worth a massive contract. The media hype around him is dumb. He's not a game changer.

Look at his numbers. He's aight. He's not dominant and never has been.
I’m fine with them giving him a ridiculous contract, but he’s not dominant?

I definitely don’t agree with that. He’s had more sacks than Miller over the last 3 years with absolutely no other real pass rushing threats around him.
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I’m fine with them giving him a ridiculous contract, but he’s not dominant?

I definitely don’t agree with that. He’s had more sacks than Miller over the last 3 years with absolutely no other real pass rushing threats around him.
He averages 10 sacks a season. Not exactly dominant.

He didn't log a single sack last season against the Chargers, and only had 1.5 sacks against the Chiefs.

4 Division games and only 1.5 sacks? That's not "Highest paid OLB" production.
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He averages 10 sacks a season. Not exactly dominant.

He didn't log a single sack last season against the Chargers, and only had 1.5 sacks against the Chiefs.

4 Division games and only 1.5 sacks? That's not "Highest paid OLB" production.
Well yea if you want to include his rookie year where he only got 4 sacks because it fits your narrative so be it. Most pass rushers don’t come into the league and dominate day 1.

He’s averaged 12 sacks a year over the last 3 seasons. That’s pretty ****ing good. I’m not saying he’s the best edge rusher in the league, but he’s definitely top 3 and a dominant player.
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Well yea if you want to include his rookie year where he only got 4 sacks because it fits your narrative so be it. Most pass rushers don’t come into the league and dominate day 1.

He’s averaged 12 sacks a year over the last 3 seasons. That’s dominant. I’m not saying he’s the best edge rusher in the league, but he’s definitely top 3 and a dominant player.
12 sacks a season wouldn't put him in the top 5 for any of the past 3 seasons.

How can you say top 3?

He had ONE season in which he was a top 3 pass rusher. No other season has he cracked the top 5.

And don't tell me has has no help. Bruce Irvin was only two sacks short of Mack's total last season.
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Well yea if you want to include his rookie year where he only got 4 sacks because it fits your narrative so be it. Most pass rushers don’t come into the league and dominate day 1.

He’s averaged 12 sacks a year over the last 3 seasons. That’s pretty ****ing good. I’m not saying he’s the best edge rusher in the league, but he’s definitely top 3 and a dominant player.
If you're going to remove his rookie season as an outlier, then it's fair to remove his 15 sack season as an outlier too, right?

So based off the past two seasons he averages 10.75 sacks a season.

That's aight.

That's worth aight money.
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