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Old 08-01-2005, 07:23 AM  
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Holthus on Des Moines radio...only caught part of it...

8/18 Update posted by htismaqe
Hinted (like he hinted Monday about Tynes' arrest) that Todd Collins was in trouble. More to come later today from the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

Vermeil appeared to have Tynes' back, but he was visibly upset with the kicker at other times. Still thinks competition will be brought in.

Surtain has been the star of camp. Said even though the guy is a top NFL CB, he approached camp like he was fighting for the 53rd spot on the roster. Great player and great example. Derrick Johnson is legit and has the chance to be up there with DT, Lanier, and Bell.

On the offensive side, talked alot about LJ and the o-line, and how stellar Roaf and Waters have been.

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8/16 Update posted by jspchief
Talked about Gunther on the rampage.

Morning practice, he tore Grigsby a new asshole for mistakes lining up.

Afternoon practice, he told Alphonso Hodge that he can find 100,000 people to do the job as good as he is, and that he fired the last player that played like that. Apparently Hodge talked back to him at that point, which can't be good for your lifespan.

Coaches that win a superbowl with one team have never won one with the next team.

Vermeil is frustrated with all the man hours missed. Is tired of guys sitting out for every little nick.

Some scrub from ISU quit the team.

Talked a bit about Bell, but didn't say anything that hasn't been in the other threads. Practicing in pads, but not hitting.

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8/15 Update posted by htismaqe
The news is not good boys.

The Chiefs gave up 8 plays over 15 yards. Gunther is beyond furious, Mitch said he was "beside himself". Jared Allen has been demoted, Jimmy Wilkerson is now starting.

Kevin Sampson has a toe tendon problem, out 2-3 weeks. Todd Collins has a possible fracture, out 2-3 weeks. Holcombe will be out 6 weeks.

He said Lawrence Tynes had a bad weekend "on and off the field". When asked to elaborate about the "off the field" comment, he hemmed and hawed and never did answer. Tynes must have gotten drunk too. Anyway, he said there will likely be competition brought into camp. The good news is that Tynes didn't miss a kick yesterday.

Will Shields participated in workouts and could see full practice later this week, so that's at least one good thing.
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8/12 Update posted by htismaqe
Talked about the game. Starters will play slightly more than 1 quarter, except for Priest, LJ, Green, Gonzo. They will likely play only a couple of series'. Shields won't play. Bell won't play. Dunn is out.

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8/11 Update posted by htismaqe
Not much today. Priest and Tony were "dancing like spring chickens" last night so that was good news.

Talked mostly about the defense and the need to create turnovers. Forget yards, the defense last year had only 21 takeaways (franchise record) and 85 plays of longer than 20 yards (NFL average is 55).

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8/10 Update posted by htismaqe
Talked about the WR's. Said, after Kennison, there isn't anybody that stands out. They're all the same. Talked a bit about Booth and McIntyre and their stints in NFLE. Said Freddie is still out, he tried to talk to him last night and Freddie just kinda grumbled and groaned and kept walking. Said that everybody at the position (WR) could be a 1-2 catch guy to compliment Holmes, Gonzo, and WILSON. Yes, he mentioned Wilson in the same breath as Holmes and Gonzales. Said the team will likely keep only 5 maybe 6 WR's.

He said the team is much healthier already. Both Priest and Gonzo were back last night and looking better. Not sure about LJ.

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8/9 Update posted by htismaqe
Concerned about special teams because of loss of Blaylock and Beisel. Said Boomer or Scanlon is going to have to step up. The good news is that Benny Sapp is turning into a monster on special teams.

Also concerned about reps on Friday vs. the Vikings. Gonzo is better, wasn't limping much last night, but he won't play. Dunn won't play. Priest probably won't play. Larry Johnson is now dinged up, minor, but might not play.

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8/8 Update posted by htismaqe
Very concerned about Tony's foot. He was limping pretty bad all weekend. Seemed concerned about Jason Dunn too.

Greg Wesley looks like he's out to prove that he's still a hitter. Layed a hit on Priest like you wouldn't believe. Derrick Johnson also looks like he's on a mission to let everyone know he's not afraid of contact like the draftniks said.

Talked again about Gunther unleashed, about the fights, and about the defense's passion.

Finally he said there's going to be a couple of games where the defense and LJ have to carry this team.

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8/5 Update posted by htismaqe
Was asked about Priest's concussion. Said the defense has been unleashed by Gunther, tired of being picked on. In goal line drills (when Priest got hurt) the defense stuffed them EVERY time except...

When Larry Johnson carried the ball. He was just too strong and drug people into the end zone. Easily the offensive MVP of camp so far.

Was asked about the fighting and if it was desired. Said "NO QUESTION" emphatically. Said the intensity is way up, especially on defense, and it's been missing for far too long. Vermeil has asked Gunther to go balls to the wall this year, leave it all on the field.

Said Bo is silently having a good camp and that he separates himself easily from the other WR's because he's 1) 4 inches taller and 2) a key to our ST's.

That's about all I can remember.

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8/4 Update posted by jspchief
Talking LBs mostly.

Said he doesn't think Woods or Fujita make the team, barring a string of injuries at either position.

That's about it. Short interview. Told interesting story about hot Svitek got to America.

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8/3 Update posted by htismaqe
Anyway, he did clarify or expound on a couple of his statements from previous interviews:

1) We have to get off to a good start this year. Yesterday, it was about the assistants looking for other jobs. Today it was the danger that a poor start would cause everybody -- players, coaches, and fans -- knowing that this is Vermeil's last year, to start discussing who the next coach would be instead of worrying about this season. I think from the brew-ha-ha yesterday we had on the very subject, despite the fact that the season hasn't even started, shows that he's probably right.

2) Ferentz being mentioned as a HC candidate. Bob Stoops would be in there too.

The only thing of substance that he talked about was YET ANOTHER back injury, this time to Jason Dunn.

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8/2 Update posted by htismaqe
Dexter McCleon IS the starter opposite Surtain. Not only that but Sapp is the nickel. Ambrose and Washington are both quite a bit behind. (Interestingly enough, I heard DA say the same thing on 610 about 30 minutes later).

Also, this year is not like last year. If we go 1-3 we could be done. This is Vermeil's last year and if we start out slow, the assistants could just start looking for jobs instead of focusing.

He also said that Kirk Ferentz' name has been whispered around Arrowhead.

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8/1 Update posted by htismaqe
I heard most of the part about the coaches and what's going on there:

Vermeil and Peterson have told Saunders, no excuses get Larry Johnson on the field -- Holthus editorialized a bit, said LJ looks SUPERB so far in camp

Gunther and Saunders may have it out at some point during camp. There's been a few fights. Vermeil asked Gunther to tone it down a bit last year, but this year Vermeil has let him go back to being his old self. Saunders and Gunther have the giveaways/takeaways on a huge poster in the locker room and the defense right now is +8. Gunther rubs it in every chance he gets.

That's really the big stuff I heard him say. Mitchell's injury didn't sound serious, he was confident Shields would be fine (although he did say it was a little concerning), Wiegmann looks rejuvinated, and Priest looks like a "spring chicken".

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Old 08-02-2005, 08:35 PM   #181
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I am in agreement with Parker on this one. CP is in charge so he won't hire Al since they don't get along. The next head coach could/will be:

1. Herm Edwards
2. Bill Cowher
3. Stoops or Ferentz

CP will pick the guy he is most comfortable with and that aint Al.
If Herm Edwards is hired as HC, then I will go freakin' ballistic.
That MFer is the Marty clone.

I'm not particularly fond of the Bill Cowher idea, either.

I'm OK with Stoop or Ferentz, but I'm on the Hire Al bandwagon.
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:45 PM   #182
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If Herm Edwards is hired as HC, then I will go freakin' ballistic.
That MFer is the Marty clone.

I'm not particularly fond of the Bill Cowher idea, either.

I'm OK with Stoop or Ferentz, but I'm on the Hire Al bandwagon.
Was I the only one that saw the Marty family tree fall branch by branch last year in the playoffs? And all by the same way...playing low scoring, play not to lose ball. Wild Card game-- Marty tries to grind it out, runs three straight times on 30 yard line...misses field goal, OT, Jets go down and make the not so risky field goal. Next game--Herm Edwards falls after choking the lead away. Next game--Cowher falls--can't get players mentally ready for the challenge of facing defending champs. All of these things ala Marty. They all lost (even Marty himself, duh) in every way that Marty has lost playoff games. I found it very odd and kind of voodoo-ish. They all fell, in every way that Marty has--including the teacher himself. It was histerical. But maddening at the same time because I've been through that, we've all been through that.
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:48 PM   #183
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Was I the only one that saw the Marty family tree fall branch by branch last year in the playoffs? And all by the same way...playing low scoring, play not to lose ball. Wild Card game-- Marty tries to grind it out, runs three straight times on 30 yard line...misses field goal, OT, Jets go down and make the not so risky field goal. Next game--Herm Edwards falls after choking the lead away. Next game--Cowher falls--can't get players mentally ready for the challenge of facing defending champs. All of these things ala Marty. They all lost (even Marty himself, duh) in every way that Marty has lost playoff games. I found it very odd and kind of voodoo-ish. They all fell, in every way that Marty has--including the teacher himself. It was histerical. But maddening at the same time because I've been through that, we've all been through that.
Yeah, I saw it.

It actually kind of felt like watching The Twilight Zone.
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Old 08-02-2005, 08:51 PM   #184
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We are going to be 3-0 going into the Phily game.... lets stop the worry.
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Yeah, I saw it.

It actually kind of felt like watching The Twilight Zone.
lol, yep.
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If Herm Edwards is hired as HC, then I will go freakin' ballistic.
That MFer is the Marty clone.

I'm not particularly fond of the Bill Cowher idea, either.

I'm OK with Stoop or Ferentz, but I'm on the Hire Al bandwagon.
I'm repeating myself, but "Ditto!"...NO ****ING MARTY SPAWNS....I can not handle seeing the west coast offense back at Arrowhead...If I have to watch Herm's OC dial up a 3 yard swing pass on 3rd down I'll be forced to root for the Royals.

I agree with the premise that CP is not likely to hire AS. But if he hires Edwards it is right back to the ****ing dark ages. I'd much rather roll the dice with a college coach at that point.

I don't watch college ball real closely, but does anyone else think Stoops has a little bit of Butch Davis in him? By which I mean, his bullshit routine works in college but won't cut it with pro players...I don't know why I get a wierd vibe when I see Stoops.
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Was I the only one that saw the Marty family tree fall branch by branch last year in the playoffs? And all by the same way...playing low scoring, play not to lose ball. Wild Card game-- Marty tries to grind it out, runs three straight times on 30 yard line...misses field goal, OT, Jets go down and make the not so risky field goal. Next game--Herm Edwards falls after choking the lead away. Next game--Cowher falls--can't get players mentally ready for the challenge of facing defending champs. All of these things ala Marty. They all lost (even Marty himself, duh) in every way that Marty has lost playoff games. I found it very odd and kind of voodoo-ish. They all fell, in every way that Marty has--including the teacher himself. It was histerical. But maddening at the same time because I've been through that, we've all been through that.
excellent post...watching Marty succumb to his own weaknesses again was almost sad...but mostly funny...
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excellent post...watching Marty succumb to his own weaknesses again was almost sad...but mostly funny...
And inevitable.
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We are going to be 3-0 going into the Phily game.... lets stop the worry.
If we can beat Oakland and Denver back to back weeks on the road on national TV, you can start printing playoff tickets.
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If we can beat Oakland and Denver back to back weeks on the road on national TV, you can start printing playoff tickets.
I think we have a great chance in doing so. If our offense can get off to a fast start, I think we could get to 4-0. I think at worst we'll be 3-1, with the sole loss being to Denver, but like I mentioned, if the ball bounces our way, we could get that game.
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Start fresh?? That's the DUMBEST idea I've heard in a long, long time. The reason teams like SF, Pittsburgh and Dallas were so successful for so long is that they didn't change their offensive system. The Chiefs finally have a great offense in place - a great system that utilizes the best of every player, whether it be offensive lineman, wide receivers, QB or running back. To completely change and bring in some college coach or another re-hashed old timer would be a waste of time. This team needs offensive continuity if it's going to continue to be successful.

They don't need another Marty Clone (Edwards, Cowher, etc.) or a West Coast offense disciple. Saunders needs to be given a minimum of 2 years as head coach. He's been in the top 5 of every offensive category since he's arrived and yes, any other coach who's ever done something close to that (whether it be on the offensive or defensive side of the ball) has become a head coach. Think Billick, Fassel, Nolan, Marvin Lewis, Dom Capers, etc. I don't want to see Saunders as a head coach anywhere else other than KC.

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Hiring a HC that wants to hire completely different players to implement his offense/defense would be idiotic.

A lot of the starters on our offense are old but there's also a lot of young depth. Green likely has 2, perhaps 3 years left in him. LJ will step in for Priest, and he's proven he can produce. Gonzo probably has 5 years left. If we can find a way to replace Roaf and Shields with quality starters our offense will still be top 5 in the league.

Our defense is young. All three of our starting LB's are young. Outside of hicks our whole defensive line is young. Knight and Surtain aren't spring chickens but we've got plenty of depth at S and our only real area of concern would be CB.

The only holes this team will have over the next 2 to 3 years will be Offensive line, CB, and WR...

This has turned into a great thread, rep.
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Old 08-03-2005, 07:19 AM   #193
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Holthus on Des Moines radio...8/3 update

First of all, I have to say -- Holthus has gone from a mediocre interview to BRUTAL. The guy is an idiot savant. He rambled on about his adoption of Iowa high school football teams (1A or 2A only) and the Earlham Cardinals. He talked about Pappajohn's Pizza (of course) and he went on and on about the possibility of Kirk Ferentz coaching both the Hawkeyes and Chiefs.

Anyway, he did clarify or expound on a couple of his statements from previous interviews:

1) We have to get off to a good start this year. Yesterday, it was about the assistants looking for other jobs. Today it was the danger that a poor start would cause everybody -- players, coaches, and fans -- knowing that this is Vermeil's last year, to start discussing who the next coach would be instead of worrying about this season. I think from the brew-ha-ha yesterday we had on the very subject, despite the fact that the season hasn't even started, shows that he's probably right.

2) Ferentz being mentioned as a HC candidate. Bob Stoops would be in there too.

The only thing of substance that he talked about was YET ANOTHER back injury, this time to Jason Dunn.
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Old 08-03-2005, 11:14 AM   #195
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I just talked to a Iowa Hawkeye fan & here's exactly what he said about Ferentz leaving:

Ferentz signed an eight year contract last year....he isn't leaving Iowa maybe because him and his wife didn't want to have to have their children move schools again. His contract expires the year their youngest son graduates college....besides he stated his dream job is the Pittsburgh Steelers, which he stated that is the ONLY place he would leave the Hawkeyes.
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