Life The Death Penalty - Page 13

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-07-2008, 09:48 AM

A friend of my parents is sentenced to be executed in a couple of weeks for being an accomplice in a murder in 1994. You can read the details of the incident below (written by his wife), and sign the petition if you feel inclined to do so. We are petitioning for his sentence to be changed to life in prison without parole, rather than death.

On Friday, despite the fact that we have two issues before the court, the Missouri Supreme Court set an execution date of Aug. 27. For those of you who would like to do anything to help try to prevent this state from killing my husband, your help is welcome and there are some fairly simple things you can do. For those who are not aware of the facts of the case, here are some main points:Allen Nicklasson, the man who shot and killed Richard Drummond in Aug. 1994 did so on his own after leaving Dennis behind in the stolen car. Allen has been consistent in telling the truth since day one - with his friends and close acquaintances, as well as with law enforcement - that Dennis had absolutely no idea that when Allen walked Drummond into the woods, Allen was going to shoot him. Allen had planned to tie Drummond up so that by the time Drummond could free himself and walk into town to all police, Allen, Dennis and Tim DeGraffenreid would be back in Blue Springs, hiding out.Instead, Allen decided to kill Drummond. His statements to police have been consistent and truthful, but the state successfully kept Allen from testifying in trial. The jury never heard the truth and thus convicted Dennis for first-degree murder as an accomplice. Allen has tried through the years to be heard in court, but the appellate courts denied him that right as well. We are still trying to get the Supreme Court to look at Allen's statements. Dennis is not an innocent victim, but he is innocent of first-degree murder. We are not asking that he be freed. We believe the sentence of death is excessive in this case, and that society would be safe and justice would be served through clemency, which means we want the governor to change Dennis' sentence to life in prison without the possibility of parole.In addition, Dennis has been actively involved in restorative justice even before the program was established at Potosi Correctional Center. He is the editor of Compassion, a publication written and edited by death row inmates across the country who have raised more than $34,000 in college scholarships for family members of murdered victims. This scholarship goes to family members regardless of their stance on the death penalty. For example, Zach Osbourne, one of the recipients, supports the death penalty openly and is going to school to become a police officer. Dennis compiled a book, "Today's Choices Affect Tomorrow's Dreams," that is distributed for free to juvenile centers around the country. The book has been so popular, he has been asked to do another. That book is currently being compiled.Dennis is chairman of the prison's Hospice group and has cared for many dying prison patients through the years. He is a co-founder of 4-H LIFE, a family strengthening program that teaches inmates to be better parents and includes a family 4-H meeting each month inside the prison. As a former president and officer of 4-H, Dennis has led fundraisers to send money to children's programs in the state and to send 4-H LIFE members to summer camp and state leadership programs. 4-H LIFE has won several awards and is now active in several other prisons.Dennis has actively worked to build bridges between the Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Islamic and Native American religious groups at the prison. He is a founder of the Charity Carnival - in its second year - that raises money inside the prison for charitable organizations. The carnival is today, but he is locked up and cannot carry out his responsibilities for that event.Dennis speaks to university student groups on a regular basis to give them insight into the death penalty and prison life. He is, and remains, a positive spokesman and positive role models for other prisoners.He is a leader in the Set Free Ministry, a prison ministry that works with thousands of inmates in Missouri and Illinois to help them in their Christian walk. The Ministry has grown from an office of three to an office of around 20 inmates at PCC and a second office in Charleston's prison. The Ministry continues to expand in prisons in the two states as well as into jails.All of this is documented, not the exaggerated account of a wife desperate to save her husband.For those of you who have asked, I am terrified, but determined to fight for justice for my family. Murdering my husband is not justice - it is harming me, my son, Dennis' sisters, brother, nephews, aunts uncles, friends, etc. He is my soulmate, for those of you who understand what that means. A date is an extremely serious situation, but we have issues to pursue and this does not mean we're done. Please do not assume that this is inevitable, even though we have a very, very difficult fight in the next 32 days.I appreciate your support in any way. Should you want to write letters, file amicus briefs (friend of the court) with your church or other organization, let me know and I'll give you more info. If you choose to pray, please ask God to intervene and see that Dennis receives a lesser sentence.Thanks.

You can sign the petition at the link below. Thanks.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/help-dennis-skillicorn

Midnight_Vulture · 08-07-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Yeah, to Hell with compassion.
Let's get back to original American ideas like Slavery and Land-Stealing.

Another wussy liberal trying to change the subject. Believe me I am all for having compassion for human life...just not that of murderers.

What if your wife or brother or any other family member was viciously murdered? You wouldnt be spouting off all that pussy liberal rhetoric.

MOhillbilly · 08-07-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Tell that to Luther Plant. Oh, wait, you can't. Agofsky stomped him to death.

i remember it well.

Redrum_69 · 08-07-2008, 11:59 AM

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Micjones · 08-07-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight_Vulture

Another wussy liberal trying to change the subject. Believe me I am all for having compassion for human life...just not that of murderers.

What if your wife or brother or any other family member was viciously murdered? You wouldnt be spouting off all that pussy liberal rhetoric.

Again, this is a lame tactic.

I would be no more in favor of the death penalty even if it personally touched my life.

beach tribe · 08-07-2008, 12:01 PM

This place is like a black hole.......

ChiefsFan4Life · 08-07-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

This place is like a black hole.......

Who are you to judge what this forum is like, we all have our flaws

**Rain Man** · 08-07-2008, 12:01 PM

How about slavery instead of the death penalty? Give him to the family of the victim.

PhillyChiefFan · 08-07-2008, 12:02 PM

Honest question answer this HONESTLY!

If a guy broke into your home and in the malee killed your wife/daughter, and then was caught by the cops and sentenced. What would you hope that sentence turned out to be?

Don't mistake these comments we are not blood thirty, I just know how I would feel. I would not want him to be alive anymore.

God judges, execution speeds up the meeting.

PhillyChiefFan · 08-07-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight_Vulture

Another wussy liberal trying to change the subject. Believe me I am all for having compassion for human life...just not that of murderers.

What if your wife or brother or any other family member was viciously murdered? You wouldnt be spouting off all that pussy liberal rhetoric.

Beat me to it.

ChiefsFan4Life · 08-07-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

If a guy broke into your home and in the malee killed your wife/daughter, and then was caught by the cops and sentenced. What would you hope that sentence turned out to be?

I think it's pretty obvious that he would want him to remain alive in prison with the possibility of new evidence coming to light that one day may set him free

**Dartgod** · 08-07-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Yes.

And I would argue that so do many other people who've run afoul of the law.
Now are you prepared to argue that the application of the death penalty is equitable?

Thanks for being honest.

I'm really torn on capital punishment. On one hand, I think it should be used as a deterrent to the most heinous of crimes. But we have to be 100%, absolutely sure that the accused is guilty of the crime. The state that our judicial system is in today makes me suspicious that it is possible at times. So I'm wavering a little, but in principle I still support it.

Micjones · 08-07-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

Honest question answer this HONESTLY!

If a guy broke into your home and in the malee killed your wife/daughter, and then was caught by the cops and sentenced. What would you hope that sentence turned out to be?

Don't mistake these comments we are not blood thirty, I just know how I would feel. I would not want him to be alive anymore.

God judges, execution speeds up the meeting.

It wouldn't change my respect for human life.
I get the sentimentality card. You want to play on my emotions.
But even personal tragedy doesn't change how sacred life is for me.

ChiefsFan4Life · 08-07-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

It wouldn't change my respect for human life.
I get the sentimentality card. You want to play on my emotions.
But even personal tragedy doesn't change how sacred life is for me.

You didn't answer the question, surprise surprise

What would you want his sentence to be

Fairplay · 08-07-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

How about slavery instead of the death penalty? Give him to the family of the victim.

I want to be the boss man with a whip.

PhillyChiefFan · 08-07-2008, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

How about slavery instead of the death penalty? Give him to the family of the victim.

08-07-2008, 09:48 AM
Mama Hip Rockets You don't faze me, Gobble. Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $9915644	The Death Penalty A friend of my parents is sentenced to be executed in a couple of weeks for being an accomplice in a murder in 1994. You can read the details of the incident below (written by his wife), and sign the petition if you feel inclined to do so. We are petitioning for his sentence to be changed to life in prison without parole, rather than death. On Friday, despite the fact that we have two issues before the court, the Missouri Supreme Court set an execution date of Aug. 27. For those of you who would like to do anything to help try to prevent this state from killing my husband, your help is welcome and there are some fairly simple things you can do. For those who are not aware of the facts of the case, here are some main points:Allen Nicklasson, the man who shot and killed Richard Drummond in Aug. 1994 did so on his own after leaving Dennis behind in the stolen car. Allen has been consistent in telling the truth since day one - with his friends and close acquaintances, as well as with law enforcement - that Dennis had absolutely no idea that when Allen walked Drummond into the woods, Allen was going to shoot him. Allen had planned to tie Drummond up so that by the time Drummond could free himself and walk into town to all police, Allen, Dennis and Tim DeGraffenreid would be back in Blue Springs, hiding out.Instead, Allen decided to kill Drummond. His statements to police have been consistent and truthful, but the state successfully kept Allen from testifying in trial. The jury never heard the truth and thus convicted Dennis for first-degree murder as an accomplice. Allen has tried through the years to be heard in court, but the appellate courts denied him that right as well. We are still trying to get the Supreme Court to look at Allen's statements. Dennis is not an innocent victim, but he is innocent of first-degree murder. We are not asking that he be freed. We believe the sentence of death is excessive in this case, and that society would be safe and justice would be served through clemency, which means we want the governor to change Dennis' sentence to life in prison without the possibility of parole.In addition, Dennis has been actively involved in restorative justice even before the program was established at Potosi Correctional Center. He is the editor of Compassion, a publication written and edited by death row inmates across the country who have raised more than $34,000 in college scholarships for family members of murdered victims. This scholarship goes to family members regardless of their stance on the death penalty. For example, Zach Osbourne, one of the recipients, supports the death penalty openly and is going to school to become a police officer. Dennis compiled a book, "Today's Choices Affect Tomorrow's Dreams," that is distributed for free to juvenile centers around the country. The book has been so popular, he has been asked to do another. That book is currently being compiled.Dennis is chairman of the prison's Hospice group and has cared for many dying prison patients through the years. He is a co-founder of 4-H LIFE, a family strengthening program that teaches inmates to be better parents and includes a family 4-H meeting each month inside the prison. As a former president and officer of 4-H, Dennis has led fundraisers to send money to children's programs in the state and to send 4-H LIFE members to summer camp and state leadership programs. 4-H LIFE has won several awards and is now active in several other prisons.Dennis has actively worked to build bridges between the Protestant, Catholic, Muslim, Islamic and Native American religious groups at the prison. He is a founder of the Charity Carnival - in its second year - that raises money inside the prison for charitable organizations. The carnival is today, but he is locked up and cannot carry out his responsibilities for that event.Dennis speaks to university student groups on a regular basis to give them insight into the death penalty and prison life. He is, and remains, a positive spokesman and positive role models for other prisoners.He is a leader in the Set Free Ministry, a prison ministry that works with thousands of inmates in Missouri and Illinois to help them in their Christian walk. The Ministry has grown from an office of three to an office of around 20 inmates at PCC and a second office in Charleston's prison. The Ministry continues to expand in prisons in the two states as well as into jails.All of this is documented, not the exaggerated account of a wife desperate to save her husband.For those of you who have asked, I am terrified, but determined to fight for justice for my family. Murdering my husband is not justice - it is harming me, my son, Dennis' sisters, brother, nephews, aunts uncles, friends, etc. He is my soulmate, for those of you who understand what that means. A date is an extremely serious situation, but we have issues to pursue and this does not mean we're done. Please do not assume that this is inevitable, even though we have a very, very difficult fight in the next 32 days.I appreciate your support in any way. Should you want to write letters, file amicus briefs (friend of the court) with your church or other organization, let me know and I'll give you more info. If you choose to pray, please ask God to intervene and see that Dennis receives a lesser sentence.Thanks. You can sign the petition at the link below. Thanks. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/help-dennis-skillicorn
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