Go on the record: Who do you want as GM and Head Coach?

[The Bad Guy]

[quote=kcbubb;5310731]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Originally Posted by kcbubb
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Albert
Dwayne Bowe
Maurice Leggett
Brandon Carr
J. Charles
Kolby Smith
Jarrad Page
Tyler Thigpen
Glenn Dorsey
Tank Tyler

Development of these young players. people say they want to win a superbowl. You have to develop a good roster to achieve that. The roster is developing.



So, you don't think Herm has done a good job developing undrafted free agents, rookies, and waived players like:

Brandon Flowers
Brandon Albert
Maurice Leggett
Brandon Carr
J. Charles
Tyler Thigpen????????????

And to answer your question, no I don't think that every coach can develop undrafted or rookie players. When is the last time the chiefs drafted and developed a cornerback?????

How exactly has he developed Jamal Charles? Has Charles done something I'm unaware of? He's a 3rd round talent that was advertised as having great speed. So far, what has Herm done with him? He's no superstar, he's exactly what we thought he was when we drafted him.

If you think Herm is the one who developed Thigpen, I have some ocean front property in Nebraska to sell you.

I'll give Herm Carr and Leggette. Flowers and Albert were already super talented.

Keep grasping at those straws.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

For the people who want to keep Herm... I'd like you to list 5 things he has accomplished during his 3 seasons in KC to justify your desire to keep him on as head coach.

I'm on the small train of people who wants the GM to have the power to choose who he wants, but doesn't think Herm is nearly as bad as people say:

#1 - there has been a LOT of talk especially after the Peterson firing that Herm tried to rebuild a long time ago and was met with resistance every time from Peterson. The Chiefs needed to rebuild and finally did in 2008, and that was largely due to Herm
#2 - For as stubborn as people claim he is, he let Chan Gailey coach and didn't butt in, even if it went against his conservative philosophy
#3 - Even if the Chiefs don't pull off wins, there is no doubt that the team has improved markedly (they are losing close games) and they are easily the most motivated losing team in the NFL
#4 - If the 2008 draft and personnel moves are a sign of what's to come, it's a huge step in the right direction. It was one of the best drafts in team history and we also made a lot of underrated off-draft moves, such as bringing in Bradley, Mike Cox, Maurice Leggett, and even Boiman and Babin have turned out to be surprisingly decent depth pickups.
#5 - He committed to the youth movement and, with the exception of McIntosh, has held true to that promise. He has cut starters in mid-season (i.e. Sams, Novak, Harris), he has changed starters around (i.e. McBride over Boone, Carr over Surtain, Leggett over Brackenridge, Bradley over Darling, Barth over Novak, Tyler over Edwards)

I have said many times that I don't know if Herm is the right coach to take this team to the next level, so I'd have no problem with him leaving after this season. But I have never, ever seen a bigger scapegoat and don't understand why some people can't see any positive. Even if a new head coach were to take over next season, I guarantee that we'll look back five years from now and be glad that Herm had the balls to commit to the rebuild even against a powerful GM who did everything in his power to squash it.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

For the people who want to keep Herm... I'd like you to list 5 things he has accomplished during his 3 seasons in KC to justify your desire to keep him on as head coach.

5) the list kcbubb made of the young players he drafted

4) adapted to what we had and let chan run the O

3) committed to a youth movement and got the ball rolling on that movement. BTW - it's the first year of getting it done his way. Let's see if it pans out, sans mega injuries (I hope)

2) he's got that young team, playing with injuries, motivated. Let him keep building on that motivation. Teaching, coaching, learning, improving. Pull the plug and start all over.

1) and this is the best of them all - he helped to get rid of Carl


BTW- I also think the new GM should have his say, let herm go if he sees fit to do so. But I won't be surprised or disappointed if he ended up keeping Herm. edit- I just saw chiefzilla's post....

[mylittlepony]

GM- Scott Pioli
HC- Spag
OC- Chan Gailey(?)
DC- Sean McDermott

Pioli to draft quality guys. Spag to run the team. Gailey because he knows how to work with a limited offense. And McDermott who comes from the Jim Johnson school and knows Spag and both are big faith guys. Who better to run his D?

[TrickyNicky]

Originally Posted by mylittlepony

GM- Scott Pioli
HC- Spag
OC- Chan Gailey(?)
DC- Sean McDermott

Pioli to draft quality guys. Spag to run the team. Gailey because he knows how to work with a limited offense. And McDermott who comes from the Jim Johnson school and knows Spag and both are big faith guys. Who better to run his D?

I'm willing to give McDermott the head job, but that'll do as well.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by mylittlepony

GM- Scott Pioli
HC- Spag
OC- Chan Gailey(?)
DC- Sean McDermott

Pioli to draft quality guys. Spag to run the team. Gailey because he knows how to work with a limited offense. And McDermott who comes from the Jim Johnson school and knows Spag and both are big faith guys. Who better to run his D?

this is okay...

But there has to be better opitions out there than Gailey.. And by all means I am thankfully for Gailey. He saved us from Herm this year, I mean really saved us from Herm complete dumbassery! I havent seen a coach so ****ing clueless as Herm.. Just amazes me he can actually unzip his fly to take a wizz....

But I would like to see other canidates interviewed or suggested for the job...

[melbar]

I like Polian GM and
Cower HC

Polian is fresh and still has experience and success.

Cower is a good teacher and coach. I think this team needs a guy who can come in and demand respect. They need a firm hand. A young guy who hasnt been there may turn out to be a great guy, but we have a young team and I think they need leadership. I think Herm is too much of a buddy-buddy guy.

[ChiefsCountry]

Cowher is going to coach either the Redskins or Panthers maybe the Browns if they give him full control.

[ArrowheadHawk]

I don't care who the GM and Head Coach are so long as they turn this scrapheap of a team we have around.

[Chiefnj2]

Jack DelRio will make a good DC.

[Mecca]

I see some are still swallowing the Herm koolaid.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I see some are still swallowing the Herm koolaid.

That shit was sour before he ever got here.

[keg in kc]

I really don't care. I don't have a horse in the race, and I don't get a vote in the final decision.

[bringbackmarty]

Kuharich-Ticket Booth
Pioli- GM
Gailey - HC
Curtis Johnson (saints wr coach) - OC
Clarence Brooks (Ravens DL coach) - DC
anybody but priefer - ST

[bringbackmarty]

Marty would be a good gm. Pioli obviously is better, but not realistic.