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Old 12-09-2009, 03:11 PM   Topic Starter
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Brady has lost 5 with the same players Matt had...
just saying Matt haters need to get real. The team is awful not Matt.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:13 PM   #2
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:15 PM   #3
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:16 PM   #4
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Yep. Cause the patriots defense hasnt drastically declined since last year.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:20 PM   #5
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Yep. Cause the patriots defense hasnt drastically declined since last year.
Yep. Cause the Patriots didn't lose 4 games the year prior to going unbeaten in the regular season.
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Old 12-09-2009, 04:52 PM   #6
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Yep. Cause the patriots defense hasnt drastically declined since last year.
Hell, it was declining since 2007. It was easy last year to blame their 11-5 record on Cassel and overlook that their defense was just not as good as it was in 2007, and it has continued this year.

Just further proof that a QB is not the only difference between winning and losing, but he's the easiest guy to blame or give credit to...
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Old 12-10-2009, 08:40 AM   #7
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Yep. Cause the patriots defense hasnt drastically declined since last year.
Statistically, the defense isn't that bad.

Of course, statistics are lying in this case. The defense is highly mediocre.

But the offense ain't so great either. Awful in the red zone, awful in the last 2 minutes of each half, awful in the 2nd half in general, and seemingly unable to get it done under pressure.

Brady has thrown two picks in the red zone in the last 4 weeks (after going something like 300 attempts in a row in the red zone without throwing one).

The Patriots have beaten ZERO teams iwth a winning record this year, and are 7-5 depsite a realtivelyweak schedule. The team just isn't that good. It appears to be a transition year, though we still have Brady/Moss/Welker.
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Old 12-10-2009, 09:52 AM   #8
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The Patriots have beaten ZERO teams with a winning record this year, and are 7-5 despite a relatively weak schedule. The team just isn't that good. It appears to be a transition year, though we still have Brady/Moss/Welker.
I really haven't paid much attention to NE's schedule but there were some on here claiming NE's record this year was worse than last because of their much tougher schedule.

Interesting.
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Old 12-10-2009, 10:01 AM   #9
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I really haven't paid much attention to NE's schedule but there were some on here claiming NE's record this year was worse than last because of their much tougher schedule.

Interesting.
Let's see, the Patriots are 7-5...

Defeated:
Bills (4-8)
Falcons (6-6)
Ravens (6-6)
Titans (5-7)
Bucs (1-11)
Dolphins (6-6)
Jets (6-6)

Lost to:
Jets (6-6)
Broncos (8-4)
Colts (12-0)
Saints (12-0)
Dolphins (6-6)

So, through 12 games... they've played 3 teams with records better than .500 and lost all 3. They have split with the Dolpins and Jets, both 6-6. And, they smacked around the Bills (by 1 point), Titans and Bucs.

I never looked at it like that, but yeah... they've been very underwhelming and yet, they're still leading the AFCE by a game. They're fortunate in that regard.

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Just for giggles and grins...

Denver has defeated:
Bengals (9-3)
Browns (1-11)
Raiders (4-8)
Cowboys (8-4)
Patriots (7-5)
Chargers (9-3)
Giants (7-5)
Chiefs (3-9)

Denver has lost to:
Ravens (6-6)
Steelers (6-6)
Redskins (3-9)
Chargers (9-3)
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I really haven't paid much attention to NE's schedule but there were some on here claiming NE's record this year was worse than last because of their much tougher schedule.

Interesting.
Their schedule is tougher.

2009: Opponents have a .516 winning percentage

2008: Opponents had a .480 winning percentage
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:16 PM   #11
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:19 PM   #12
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And Cassell lost 6. . .
Pretty sure they went 11-5 with cassel.
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