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Deberg_1990 · 09-29-2011, 12:55 PM

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/stor...t-consequences

It doesn’t necessarily matter what NBA commissioner David Stern meant when he said on Wednesday that the upcoming weekend of negotiations between players and the league would determine “whether they can either have a season or not have a season.” Maybe it was a threat, as it sure seemed to be—a grand warning that if they did not accede to a deal, players would miss out on an entire year of salary. But the league is insisting it was not a threat, so maybe it wasn’t.

It’s not really important, though, because we don’t need any pronouncements from Stern to notice that the pages are slipping away on the NBA’s calendar, and with both sides reporting on Wednesday that no progress had been made, at the very least, the beginning of the season is in jeopardy.

The sides will meet again on Friday, and considering it will take about two weeks to iron out the details of a collective bargaining agreement, it’s clear that without significant movement this weekend, the season won’t start on time on Nov. 1. During the 1998 lockout, the league started canceling regular-season games on October 13, and that timeline should hold up this time around.

Canceling the season is still an option, but it’s on the back-burner. There are some who believe that once some games are missed, owners will be willing to axe the whole season, as the NHL did in ’05. But bear in mind, losing an entire season would not just be a hit to the players. It would be a big hit to the owners, too. There is a provision in the league’s television contract that pays the league even in the event of lost games, something that surely increases the owners’ bargaining power in the early stages of a lockout. Owners will still be feeding from their deepest trough, while players miss paychecks.

There is a catch, though—if the entire season is canceled, the owners will have to return the television money, plus interest. The threat of the season being canceled can be arrived at just by looking at the calendar and noting the lack of progress the two sides have made. But there would be no point to a preemptive canceling of the season on Stern’s part.

SI.com’s Sam Amick reports that Stern has laid out a Jan. 7 drop-dead date for cancellation of the season. That was the same deadline in ’99, when a scattered and shortened 50-game season began on February 5—with very negative results. Attendance fell by 2.2 percent, television ratings fell sharply and NBA Finals ratings went from 18.7 to 11.3. That was largely because of the retirement of Michael Jordan and the breakup of the Bulls, but still, it took a long time for the NBA to recover its popularity.

The league last season regained its relevance among fans. Players have a lot at stake in the case of a canceled season. But while owners might be in a better financial position to withstand a long lockout, they saw the NBA finally climb out of its post-Jordan doldrums, and they have a lot at stake here, too.

A canceled season is still a possibility. But we’re a long way from that point.

**wazu** · 10-11-2011, 01:53 PM

I'll be glad. I want the players to lose big, in a massive spectacle that serves as a cautionary tale for other pro sports leagues for decades to come.

**loochy** · 10-11-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

They still play pro basketball?

No, they don't. Haven't you heard about this lockout thing?

**gblowfish** · 10-11-2011, 02:21 PM

It doesn't bother me at all. I quit caring about the NBA when the Kings left for Sacramento.

Calcountry · 10-11-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Who watches the NBA?

Who really gives a shit about the NBA?

InChiefsHeaven · 10-11-2011, 02:43 PM

What is this NBA of which you speak?

Edit: Dammit, somebody beat me to it like 12 pages ago...I'm sooo slow...

chiefzilla1501 · 10-11-2011, 02:51 PM

I would be ECSTATIC.

Nothing would charge me up more than if Cleveland won a championship before LeBron.

Can you imagine if the Cavs get another lottery pick in 2012 without playing a single game? That means they could essentially collect 3 lottery picks in one offseason. PLUS... the Cavs still have a $15M exception which I would imagine the NBA would HAVE to extend. That means the Cavs might bring up to 4 marquee players onto their team in one offseason.

That would be the biggest middle finger to LeBron, if they won a trophy without him before he could win one for the Heat.

Braincase · 10-11-2011, 02:54 PM

Might scratch my ball sack with the other hand. Or maybe not.

suds79 · 10-11-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Calcountry

Who really gives a shit about the NBA?

Just about every large city in the US except for KC since you asked.

The NBA is wildly popular. There are several superstars in the league and people watch for various reasons. Like to watch superstars? Fine. Have a home team you watch? Great. Just want to see Lebron lose? You'll have lots of company.

**loochy** · 10-11-2011, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Just about every large city in the US except for KC since you asked.

The NBA is wildly popular. There are several superstars in the league and people watch for various reasons. Like to watch superstars? Fine. Have a home team you watch? Great. Just want to see Lebron lose? You'll have lots of company.

Do you like to see lots of traveling? Great. Do you only want rules enforced some of the time? Awesome. Do you want superstars to play by their own set of rules? Excellent.

suds79 · 10-11-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy

Do you like to see lots of traveling? Great. Do you only want rules enforced some of the time? Awesome. Do you want superstars to play by their own set of rules? Excellent.

Weak, misinformed stereotypes that just don't die held mostly by 40+ old men who long for the Jeff Hornaceks of the world and haven't watched since the Jordan era.

My favorite part was the superstars who play by their own set of rules. Seriously that bugs you? We're all here because we love the NFL. They invent rules based on superstars. See Tom Brady. If that bugs you, then you might want to rethink the NFL also.

Hootie · 10-11-2011, 03:27 PM

they need to make things more fair for the smaller market teams...

I knew the NFL was never in danger of missing games...

I honestly think the NBA is going to miss a whole season like the NHL...they need a damn hard cap (won't happen)...they need to stop guaranteeing contracts past 2 or 3 years...

CoMoChief · 10-11-2011, 03:29 PM

Non-NBA markets don't give a shit about the NBA for the most part, unless it's a (recent) former NBA market maybe like when a team moved (Seattle).

I don't really see KC ever getting an NBA team, although it's possible we get a NHL team.

This area is dominated by it's college bball scene (MU/KU/KSU) and the fact that all 3 teams are all good at the same time now enhances that even more. This is partially the reason why many (if not most) want MU to stay in the Big12...in this area it's huge from the months of Aug til Mar/Apr.

Obviously teams like CHI, NY, BOS, MIA, LA will not like this lockout at all because they're the larger markets that help drive the league in terms of TV revenue/fanbases. But would teams like MIL, MEM care about this at all? I don't know.....possibly if thats the only pro sport in the area with a lack of a dominant college sports scene.....Oklahoma City at this time of year has Sooner and Cowboy football, and the fact they're bothing kickass at this time doesn't help the NBA lockout at all. It's all about demand and what the people want. They want football. People were scared about the NFL possibly losing games, because the demand is higher and there are less games that are played. In the NBA, there are 80 games, and if 20 of them are cancelled, no one will care because there are 62 more games.

Maybe I'm wrong, since I'm somewhat far away from an NBA market, but I just don't care about the NBA, and most of that would change if the game was actually called correctly as it should. The reffing is shady at best, and to be honest the season is too damn long and there is a "dry-spell" feeling you get with at least half of the games, kinda like baseball and I love baseball, just think the season is way too long. I like the NBA playoffs a lot better because you have to pretty much go all out for a short period of time or else you go home, the gameplay is picked up another notch, and players play like they give 2 shits.

Not only that, but the main reason that no one cares about the NBA is solely due to the fact that it's football season, nuff said.....the sport has taken over this country from a cultural aspect, both NCAA and pro....and it mostly comes on mostly once a week (not counting MNF bc most teams on a single week don't play MNF, and some don't play MNF at all during the season), so the demand is a little more....also adding to that, there are only 16 games, and the games mean much more due to that fact. You can't have a slow couple months of shoddy play in the NFL or college because that's half your season.

But like I said before....it's football season....and that rules over all other sports.

**loochy** · 10-11-2011, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79

Weak, misinformed stereotypes that just don't die held mostly by 40+ old men who long for the Jeff Hornaceks of the world and haven't watched since the Jordan era.

My favorite part was the superstars who play by their own set of rules. Seriously that bugs you? We're all here because we love the NFL. They invent rules based on superstars. See Tom Brady. If that bugs you, then you might want to rethink the NFL also.

Oh, it bugs me in the NFL too. I see Tamba get held on every play and it rarely gets called. WTF mate? And don't get me started on these new "defenseless receiver" rules.

At least in the NFL they review the play and TRY to get it right. In the NBA they just quit calling things altogether in the 4th quarter.

**BossChief** · 10-11-2011, 03:32 PM

dont care

the Lakers window fo Championships is probably shut, anyway.

evenfall · 10-11-2011, 03:35 PM

Seems the NBA is futile unless you are a fan of one of the 5 teams who could truly be called contenders in any given year. It is as bad as baseball used to be in that respect

Zzzzzzz

09-29-2011, 12:55 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $344454	How will you react if the NBA cancels its season? http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/stor...t-consequences It doesn’t necessarily matter what NBA commissioner David Stern meant when he said on Wednesday that the upcoming weekend of negotiations between players and the league would determine “whether they can either have a season or not have a season.” Maybe it was a threat, as it sure seemed to be—a grand warning that if they did not accede to a deal, players would miss out on an entire year of salary. But the league is insisting it was not a threat, so maybe it wasn’t. It’s not really important, though, because we don’t need any pronouncements from Stern to notice that the pages are slipping away on the NBA’s calendar, and with both sides reporting on Wednesday that no progress had been made, at the very least, the beginning of the season is in jeopardy. The sides will meet again on Friday, and considering it will take about two weeks to iron out the details of a collective bargaining agreement, it’s clear that without significant movement this weekend, the season won’t start on time on Nov. 1. During the 1998 lockout, the league started canceling regular-season games on October 13, and that timeline should hold up this time around. Canceling the season is still an option, but it’s on the back-burner. There are some who believe that once some games are missed, owners will be willing to axe the whole season, as the NHL did in ’05. But bear in mind, losing an entire season would not just be a hit to the players. It would be a big hit to the owners, too. There is a provision in the league’s television contract that pays the league even in the event of lost games, something that surely increases the owners’ bargaining power in the early stages of a lockout. Owners will still be feeding from their deepest trough, while players miss paychecks. There is a catch, though—if the entire season is canceled, the owners will have to return the television money, plus interest. The threat of the season being canceled can be arrived at just by looking at the calendar and noting the lack of progress the two sides have made. But there would be no point to a preemptive canceling of the season on Stern’s part. SI.com’s Sam Amick reports that Stern has laid out a Jan. 7 drop-dead date for cancellation of the season. That was the same deadline in ’99, when a scattered and shortened 50-game season began on February 5—with very negative results. Attendance fell by 2.2 percent, television ratings fell sharply and NBA Finals ratings went from 18.7 to 11.3. That was largely because of the retirement of Michael Jordan and the breakup of the Bulls, but still, it took a long time for the NBA to recover its popularity. The league last season regained its relevance among fans. Players have a lot at stake in the case of a canceled season. But while owners might be in a better financial position to withstand a long lockout, they saw the NBA finally climb out of its post-Jordan doldrums, and they have a lot at stake here, too. A canceled season is still a possibility. But we’re a long way from that point.
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10-11-2011, 01:53 PM	#181
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10-11-2011, 02:21 PM	#183
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10-11-2011, 02:43 PM	#185
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10-11-2011, 02:51 PM	#186
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10-11-2011, 03:29 PM	#192
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7712254	Non-NBA markets don't give a shit about the NBA for the most part, unless it's a (recent) former NBA market maybe like when a team moved (Seattle). I don't really see KC ever getting an NBA team, although it's possible we get a NHL team. This area is dominated by it's college bball scene (MU/KU/KSU) and the fact that all 3 teams are all good at the same time now enhances that even more. This is partially the reason why many (if not most) want MU to stay in the Big12...in this area it's huge from the months of Aug til Mar/Apr. Obviously teams like CHI, NY, BOS, MIA, LA will not like this lockout at all because they're the larger markets that help drive the league in terms of TV revenue/fanbases. But would teams like MIL, MEM care about this at all? I don't know.....possibly if thats the only pro sport in the area with a lack of a dominant college sports scene.....Oklahoma City at this time of year has Sooner and Cowboy football, and the fact they're bothing kickass at this time doesn't help the NBA lockout at all. It's all about demand and what the people want. They want football. People were scared about the NFL possibly losing games, because the demand is higher and there are less games that are played. In the NBA, there are 80 games, and if 20 of them are cancelled, no one will care because there are 62 more games. Maybe I'm wrong, since I'm somewhat far away from an NBA market, but I just don't care about the NBA, and most of that would change if the game was actually called correctly as it should. The reffing is shady at best, and to be honest the season is too damn long and there is a "dry-spell" feeling you get with at least half of the games, kinda like baseball and I love baseball, just think the season is way too long. I like the NBA playoffs a lot better because you have to pretty much go all out for a short period of time or else you go home, the gameplay is picked up another notch, and players play like they give 2 shits. Not only that, but the main reason that no one cares about the NBA is solely due to the fact that it's football season, nuff said.....the sport has taken over this country from a cultural aspect, both NCAA and pro....and it mostly comes on mostly once a week (not counting MNF bc most teams on a single week don't play MNF, and some don't play MNF at all during the season), so the demand is a little more....also adding to that, there are only 16 games, and the games mean much more due to that fact. You can't have a slow couple months of shoddy play in the NFL or college because that's half your season. But like I said before....it's football season....and that rules over all other sports.
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10-11-2011, 03:35 PM	#195
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