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Old 12-18-2011, 03:42 PM  
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I owe Kyle Orton an apology...
and quite a few people here should be doling them out as well...

Leonard Pope? Big catches. Barry Richardson? Nice job.

Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)...

Yet Orton has 300 yards passing in a game where we led the entire way.

Yeah, I wanted to see Stanzi play and I still do.

But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...
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Old 12-18-2011, 07:36 PM   #181
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Not me. I said he was as good as Carson Palmer and WAY cheaper. I'll go ahead and say we no longer need to think QB in the draft.
We absolutely need to draft a QB. Orton has a ton to prove in terms of late-game heroics and while he's better than Cassel, he's not top-tier talent.

Even if Orton throws for 700 yards the next two games, the Chiefs have to draft a first or second round QB. Period.
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Old 12-18-2011, 07:56 PM   #182
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That pass to Baldwin to the 3 or so, was sweet. Except for the not holding on part
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:23 PM   #183
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I've always thought Orton and Cassel were pretty much the same QB, but today I noticed I didn't get nervous every time Orton dropped back like I do with Cassel. I felt Orton was confidant in his ability to get the ball where he wanted. I know it seems obvious, but Cassel seems to have a, I hope the ball gets there, kind of mind set.
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:25 PM   #184
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That is why I would choose Cassel over Orton.
You might be the dumbest ****er on this board or top three.
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:26 PM   #185
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Give him good protection, he'll play like today and rack up yardages.

But trust me, he's not a guy you want starting long term.
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:28 PM   #186
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Orton's skillset is ****ing mind blowingly more effective than Cassel's.
Those stupid WR screens that the DBs would be nailing us on with Cassel's wind up gun are actually effective with Orton's quick draw.
Orton reads the field, and actually finds the open man. Casel, ehh not so much.
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:29 PM   #187
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today was a delight compaired to the last 2 1/2 seasons .. maybe not the QOTF but still a decent QB doing his job .. plus hats off to the D ......
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:33 PM   #188
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Orton's skillset is ****ing mind blowingly more effective than Cassel's.
Those stupid WR screens that the DBs would be nailing us on with Cassel's wind up gun are actually effective with Orton's quick draw.
Orton reads the field, and actually finds the open man. Casel, ehh not so much.
It was great to see when the play would break down, instead of freaking out Orton found the open man, quickly. Quickly is the key, because Cassel would eventually find the man in the flat, but so late in the play that the D could easily see what was happening and blow up the player in the flat for a one yard gain.
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Old 12-18-2011, 08:41 PM   #189
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Give him good protection, he'll play like today and rack up yardages.

But trust me, he's not a guy you want starting long term.
We are well aware of Orton's limitations.

This may seem like a lovefest to you, but what it really is, is a celbration of the step up from absolute shit to mediocrity.

We now can only hope that Pioli has the sense to flush the shit, and actually find go out a bring us a QB we can win with long term and in the playoffs.
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:11 PM   #190
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:44 PM   #192
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:13 AM   #193
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Give him good protection, he'll play like today and rack up yardages.

But trust me, he's not a guy you want starting long term.
Who said anything about wanting him to start long term?

Read my original post - I STILL would prefer to see Stanzi start. I'm just glad that the book on Cassel is finally closed.

Hopefully Pioli can admit he made a mistake and move on.
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:15 AM   #194
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Who said anything about wanting him to start long term?

Read my original post - I STILL would prefer to see Stanzi start. I'm just glad that the book on Cassel is finally closed.

Hopefully Pioli can admit he made a mistake and move on.
I have a feeling that so many are putting the cart before the horse here...

Gonna be alot of pissed off people come opening day next year.
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