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Old 09-07-2014, 02:56 PM  
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Congratz Dorsey, you suck.
You inherited a team that was a decent HC and QB away from being a playoff level team.

Reid arrived, wanted his QB and we made the playoffs.

It's been downhill ever since.

FA Losses: T Branden Albert, G Jon Asamoah, S Quintin Demps, DE Tyson Jackson, ILB Akeem Jordan, RB/WR Dexter McCluster, DT Jerrell Powe, G Geoff Schwartz, FS Kendrick Lewis.

We missed Albert at LT. Even though Fisher's play improved today, we still have no OT depth and were shredded at RT.

We missed Asamoah and Schwartz at guard. They might not be great but they are better than the scrubs you added off the street.

We missed McCluster in the slot, we had nothing but Avery today.

We missed Tyson Jackson, run defense along Dline was terrible.

You even made us miss Kendrick Lewis and Quentin Demps. Lewis was dog crap, but he's better than the nothing we have at backup safety now.

We missed Flowers whom you cut for money and didn't add anyone

We missed average Succop whom you cut for money.

You acted like it didn't matter who we lost because Reid/Smith were like Belichek /Brady and they would just find some way to win. They aren't.

Your drafts have been borderline terrible.



A steaming pile of shit is what you've built.

Congratz on your pending run to the 1st pick of the draft next year.

Oh, something else ...... **** you.
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:03 PM   #181
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this. mauga & JMJ [insert any of our backup ilb] are complete trash.
I disagree. They're not "trash", they backup players that should be excelling on special teams. Instead, they were forced into starting duty because the starters were injured.

If JMJ or Mauga was next to DJ, the defense would look much different.
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:04 PM   #182
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I don't know.

I was pretty high on Dorsey & Reid but the last two games (coupled with Tennessee and SF) really have me concerned about the Chiefs future. While Dorsey's done well with role players, his high draft picks have been a disappointment at best.

And as Reid goes, so do the Chiefs. If his play calling is great, the Chiefs win. If his play calling is poor, the Chiefs lose. His poor decision making greatly affects the defensive side of the ball, too.
Good post. Agree, although I give Dorsey a little more rope.

Reid... we knew what we were getting, unfortunately. Throw in Smith and you have a third guy who's given us lots of reason to doubt what we have.
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:22 PM   #183
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What's wrong with this? A lot of these guys were good players for us last year and the others are cheap role players that are easily replaced.

Some of them cost a bit more and served their purpose. Now we can get money back and get other players.

Not sure what you don't get about this? We needed some of these guys last year in year 1.
one post you defend Dorsey and the next you talk about getting rid of all the crap players Dorsey pulled in


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Old 12-02-2014, 07:37 PM   #184
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Dorsey has proven that he's able to bring in quality talent
Even without resources.
Far from it.

What he's proven is he's willing to dump starters and replace them with JAG's.

Some will work out - most won't.
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:40 PM   #185
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Every team loses people.

We picked the wrong people to allow to leave and we replaced them with often injured players and scrubs of a much lower level of talent...
We are a better team than last year. Much better. Even with injuries.

And what "often injured player" has hurt us this year with his absence? Devito, DJ, Jeff Allen, Stephenson, and Berry are not often injured (or suspended).

So I don't understand what point you're trying to make. If we're replacing guys with lesser talent then why are we better?
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Old 12-02-2014, 07:46 PM   #186
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Better than last year? Based on what? We lost to the flipping Raiders!!!
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We are a better team than last year. Much better. Even with injuries.

And what "often injured player" has hurt us this year with his absence? Devito, DJ, Jeff Allen, Stephenson, and Berry are not often injured (or suspended).

So I don't understand what point you're trying to make. If we're replacing guys with lesser talent then why are we better?
We're only better in your mind.

No WR with a TD 3/4ths of the way through the year is not better.
Dog$#it offensive line is not better.
Finishing with less wins is not better...
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Better than last year? Based on what? We lost to the flipping Raiders!!!
Yes, we should base an entire season off one game
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Far from it.

What he's proven is he's willing to dump starters and replace them with JAG's.

Some will work out - most won't.
yep he did nothing to help the offense, OL was filled with backups and depleted receiving corps was virtually kept the same. The only thing he did to bolster the offense was draft a ST/gadget player to replace McCluster.. yeah that isn't a formula for success. If anything this team has been overachieving so far.
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Yes, we should base an entire season off one game
Okay, we also lost to the Titans.
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yep he did nothing to help the offense, OL was filled with backups and depleted receiving corps was virtually kept the same. The only thing he did to bolster the offense was draft a ST/gadget player to replace McCluster.. yeah that isn't a formula for success. If anything this team has been overachieving so far.
We're very lucky that with as many sacks as Smith has taken he isn't injured yet...
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We're only better in your mind.

No WR with a TD 3/4ths of the way through the year is not better.
Our defense went from being the 24th ranked scoring defense to #3
Our offense slipped but only from #6 to #15 (and that's not counting how many points we got last year from turnovers leading to a short field, which we all know happened a lot).


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Dog$#it offensive line is not better.
Wow, that's what you care about? We're significantly better at TE. At D-line. In our secondary. And that's WITHOUT Devito, Berry, and Harris. But that o-line everyone on here kept preaching is so important trumps all that, I suppose.


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Finishing with less wins is not better...

2013 - Chiefs had the 5th lowest strength of schedule
2014 - Chiefs have the 7th hardest
We spent all offseason long bitching about how our team was a paper champion because we were barely beating terrible teams. How our record was inflated because we kept playing terrible backup QBs. How we'd look like dogshit against a real schedule. Now we've played a legitimately hard schedule, won 7 games, and all of a sudden Strength of schedule doesn't matter anymore. That's convenient.
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Okay, we also lost to the Titans.
The Chiefs this year [2014] beat (.500+ teams this year):
San Diego
Seattle
New England
Miami
Buffalo

The Chiefs last year [2014] beat (.500+ teams)
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We're very lucky that with as many sacks as Smith has taken he isn't injured yet...
I thought he was done after getting speared in the spine with the crown of Von Miller's helmet. that looked absolutely devastating live. With a less mobile QB they could have easily gotten around 10 sacks. The OL is probably the biggest weakness on the roster right now in terms of the impact on the outcome of the season
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Our defense went from being the 24th ranked scoring defense to #3
Our defense is better.

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Wow, that's what you care about? We're significantly better at TE. At D-line. In our secondary. And that's WITHOUT Devito, Berry, and Harris. But that o-line everyone on here kept preaching is so important trumps all that, I suppose.
You can't win if you can't throw.
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2013 - Chiefs had the 5th lowest strength of schedule
2014 - Chiefs have the 7th hardest
We spent all offseason long bitching about how our team was a paper champion because we were barely beating terrible teams. How our record was inflated because we kept playing terrible backup QBs. How we'd look like dogshit against a real schedule. Now we've played a legitimately hard schedule, won 7 games, and all of a sudden Strength of schedule doesn't matter anymore. That's convenient.
Yes and we're a very inconsistent team. We've lost to teams like the 0-10 Raiders and Titans and beat teams like the Seahawks and Pats.

This same offense that was able to score points at the end of last year can't do $3it this year. Reid still insists on passing with a line that's much better at run blocking than pass blocking.

And the Chargers and Donks have played pretty much the same schedule and both of those teams have a better record than us at this point.

Is that better?...
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