****OFFICIAL Walterfootball.com Mock Draft Thread**** - Page 13

**The Franchise** · 10-14-2016, 10:55 AM

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I'll try and update this periodically throughout the season.

17. Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri

The Chiefs currently aren't getting any pressure on the quarterback. That's obviously because Justin Houston is out, but Dee Ford, starting in his place, has done nothing. Tamba Hali doesn't have much longer remaining as a pro, so the Chiefs will need to find a suitable replacement for him.

49. Anthony Walker, ILB, Northwestern

The Chiefs could spend a second-day selection on an inside linebacker, given that Derrick Johnson is nearing retirement.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 03-24-2017, 11:31 AM

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Mel Kiper is a ****ing moron

He is very good for entertainment, though. He has such an inflated ego regarding his supposed knowledge of all things NFL draft. As if he is king this time of year. He gets sooo worked up and flustered when someone disagrees or questions something he says. It's absolutely comedy gold to watch him melt down on screen. And probably the reason ESPN has kept the clown around for so long.

raybec 4 · 03-24-2017, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by fahrenheit

He is very good for entertainment, though. He has such an inflated ego regarding his supposed knowledge of all things NFL draft. As if he is king this time of year. He gets sooo worked up and flustered when someone disagrees or questions something he says. It's absolutely comedy gold to watch him melt down on screen. And probably the reason ESPN has kept the clown around for so long.

He and that human scrotum Berman are why I put up with that ass hat Deion and watch the NFL network for the draft.

BryanBusby · 03-24-2017, 03:53 PM

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Mel Kiper is a ****ing moron

He hasn't done his own work in forever. An intern makes that shit for him and he slaps his name on it.

**RealSNR** · 03-25-2017, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeup.

It's pretty remarkable, to be honest. It takes a hell of a set of tools to be able to take a team who's best pass catcher is an intermittently healthy Donnie Avery and be identically productive with a team that has Travis Kelce, Tyreke Hill, Jeremy Maclin and Chris Conley added to the mix.

I'm serious - how the **** does he even manage that? Give the guy shit and he produces like an average to slightly below average quarterback. It stands to reason that giving him actual weapons will yield some sort of ROI...

Nope - same goddamn guy. The ability to be nominally productive in his first year or two here with a bad line and zero weapons to speak of was pretty damn admirable. But the fact that he's pretty much just hugged that line of abject mediocrity while the team around him has gotten progressively better (to the point of legitimately dangerous)....well that's just bizarre.

And remember, those stats with Maclin, Hill, and Kelce also include a better offensive line.

I don't know if it's possible to give Alex enough shit for him to be better than he is.

DJ's left nut · 03-25-2017, 09:45 AM

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And remember, those stats with Maclin, Hill, and Kelce also include a better offensive line.

I don't know if it's possible to give Alex enough shit for him to be better than he is.

And honestly, I'm not sure how much you'd have to take away before there's a noticeable drop off in production either.

The guy simply doesn't produce any differently regardless of the talent around him.

It makes no sense. The Browns should be hard up to get this guy. He's the perfect QB for a rebuild.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-25-2017, 10:39 AM

The longer Smith sticks around, the higher and more unreasonable the cost of acquiring him becomes.

Titty Meat · 03-25-2017, 12:29 PM

I mean if you take Chase Daniel's stats from 2 starts 1 with backups they are similar to Smiths....

Mr. Laz · 03-26-2017, 03:58 PM

27. Kansas City Chiefs: Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson

Andy Reid selected Kevin Kolb with his initial draft choice back in 2007. Donovan McNabb was entrenched as his starter, but he was about to turn 31, and Reid was thinking of the future. Perhaps Reid will make a similar decision at this juncture, as Alex Smith is a few months away from 33. Smith performed poorly this past season, so the Chiefs need to get better at quarterback anyway.

I should note that no team we've spoken to has Deshaun Watson as a first-round prospect. One high-ranking personnel man in the NFC told me he has Watson as a third-round prospect. It's so much like the Teddy Bridgewater draft, when the media had Bridgewater in the first round, and yet NFL franchises considered him to be a second-day prospect, even before his woeful pro day. However, this was prior to the national championship, so I have to believe some team will trade up into the back end of the opening frame to take Watson, much like the Vikings did with Bridgewater. In this case, Kansas City is simply taking Watson with its own pick, and I think it's a very logical selection.

**The Franchise** · 03-30-2017, 11:51 AM

Updated 3/29.

27. Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech

Andy Reid selected Kevin Kolb with his initial draft choice back in 2007. Donovan McNabb was entrenched as his starter, but he was about to turn 31, and Reid was thinking of the future. Perhaps Reid will make a similar decision at this juncture, as Alex Smith is a few months away from 33. Smith performed poorly this past season, so the Chiefs need to get better at quarterback anyway.

Charlie Campbell reported that some teams have Pat Mahomes slotted as a second-round prospect, but given that Mahomes is a quarterback, he's likely to be chosen earlier than most anticipate. The NFL Draft Advisory Committee apparently agrees, as they gave Mahomes a Round 2 grade, which means he'll be pushed into the opening frame because he's a quarterback. Thus, it only seems logical to slot Mahomes into this spot, because if the Chiefs like him, they won't be able to obtain him with their second-round selection.

59. Tim Williams, DE/OLB, Alabama

With Tamba Hali nearing retirement and Dee Ford hitting free agency soon, the Chiefs could be in the market for a new edge rusher. Tim Williams has Randy Gregory-type off-the-field concerns, but Andy Reid has taken chances on troubled players.

91. Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma

The Chiefs cut Jamaal Charles, so they'll need to spend an early-round selection on a new running back.

Joe Mixon is an ultra-talented running back, but will slip in the draft because he punched a woman a couple of years ago. However, Andy Reid has given second chances to players, so perhaps he'll give Mixon a shot to redeem himself, just as he did with Tyreek Hill.

104. Jake Butt, TE, Michigan

Andy Reid loves using multiple tight ends, so this is an option despite Travis Kelce being on the roster. This is some major value, as Jake Butt getting hurt caused him to drop two rounds.

132. Damore'ea Stringefellow, WR, Ole Miss

Jeremy Maclin likely won't be around in Kansas City much longer because of his salary. The Chiefs could use a mid-round selection on a receiver.

170. Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan

The Chiefs were able to get quality play out of Terrance Mitchell down the stretch last year, but that could've been a fluke. A cornerback should be added just in case.

180. Connor Harris, ILB, Lindenwood

Derrick Johnson is coming off yet another injury, so it seems clear that his time is running out. The Chiefs will need to find a replacement.

staylor26 · 03-30-2017, 12:21 PM

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**The Franchise** · 03-30-2017, 12:28 PM

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I came

I just don't see them drafting Mixon after they took Hill last year.

DJ's left nut · 03-30-2017, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I just don't see them drafting Mixon after they took Hill last year.

I don't see Lewis falling to 170 either. For that matter, I'd be surprised if Williams, Mixon or Butt fell to the Chiefs at those respective picks.

raybec 4 · 03-30-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I just don't see them drafting Mixon after they took Hill last year.

Somebody will, and whoever it is will get plus value for it.

staylor26 · 03-30-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I just don't see them drafting Mixon after they took Hill last year.

I don't either. It will be ****ing Denver or Oakland.

DJ's left nut · 03-30-2017, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I don't either. It will be ****ing Denver or Oakland.

He's gone by the mid 3rd, at the latest, IMO. Probably late 2nd.

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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2075047	Updated 3/29. 27. Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech Andy Reid selected Kevin Kolb with his initial draft choice back in 2007. Donovan McNabb was entrenched as his starter, but he was about to turn 31, and Reid was thinking of the future. Perhaps Reid will make a similar decision at this juncture, as Alex Smith is a few months away from 33. Smith performed poorly this past season, so the Chiefs need to get better at quarterback anyway. Charlie Campbell reported that some teams have Pat Mahomes slotted as a second-round prospect, but given that Mahomes is a quarterback, he's likely to be chosen earlier than most anticipate. The NFL Draft Advisory Committee apparently agrees, as they gave Mahomes a Round 2 grade, which means he'll be pushed into the opening frame because he's a quarterback. Thus, it only seems logical to slot Mahomes into this spot, because if the Chiefs like him, they won't be able to obtain him with their second-round selection. 59. Tim Williams, DE/OLB, Alabama With Tamba Hali nearing retirement and Dee Ford hitting free agency soon, the Chiefs could be in the market for a new edge rusher. Tim Williams has Randy Gregory-type off-the-field concerns, but Andy Reid has taken chances on troubled players. 91. Joe Mixon, RB, Oklahoma The Chiefs cut Jamaal Charles, so they'll need to spend an early-round selection on a new running back. Joe Mixon is an ultra-talented running back, but will slip in the draft because he punched a woman a couple of years ago. However, Andy Reid has given second chances to players, so perhaps he'll give Mixon a shot to redeem himself, just as he did with Tyreek Hill. 104. Jake Butt, TE, Michigan Andy Reid loves using multiple tight ends, so this is an option despite Travis Kelce being on the roster. This is some major value, as Jake Butt getting hurt caused him to drop two rounds. 132. Damore'ea Stringefellow, WR, Ole Miss Jeremy Maclin likely won't be around in Kansas City much longer because of his salary. The Chiefs could use a mid-round selection on a receiver. 170. Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan The Chiefs were able to get quality play out of Terrance Mitchell down the stretch last year, but that could've been a fluke. A cornerback should be added just in case. 180. Connor Harris, ILB, Lindenwood Derrick Johnson is coming off yet another injury, so it seems clear that his time is running out. The Chiefs will need to find a replacement.
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