Broncos Whining about Chiefs bending the rules

[jjchieffan]

Are they? Are our linemen illegally blocking downfield? Here's the article


KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The Denver Broncos don't argue that the Chiefs offense is among the league's best.


They don't argue that quarterback Patrick Mahomes is having an MVP-like season. And they don't argue that they've lost twice to the Chiefs in the last four weeks and they don't like it.

They do argue that the Chiefs are bending the rules on downfield blocking when they put Mahomes in some of their most successful plays on offense -- the run-pass options, or RPOs.

"What's that cutoff point for an offensive lineman to be legally down the field in pass pro?'' said defensive end Derek Wolfe. "When is a guy offsides and when is he not? Is it 12 yards now?"

"Because they're 10 yards down the field on pass plays sometimes,'' Wolfe added. "I've been playing football since 1997, that's always been illegal. I've never heard in a single meeting where they said it was OK for linemen to be that far (downfield).''

The Chiefs, now 7-1, completed a season sweep of the Broncos with a 30-23 victory over Denver at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday. The Broncos, who have lost two meetings to Kansas City by a combined 10 points, held the Chiefs to 49 yards rushing, but Mahomes finished 24-of-34 passing for 303 yards and four touchdowns.

And many of the Chiefs' biggest pass plays came on the run-pass option. The rule for downfield blocking on pass plays is for a player to be a maximum of three yards down the field before the ball is thrown.

"Linemen are five yards downfield, how do we fix that? I don't know,'' said Broncos coach Vance Joseph. "What's the rule say? I don't know. But we have to figure this out and that's on tape. That's on tape, I've seen it.''

Several Broncos defenders echoed Wolfe's and Joseph's comments, including Broncos defensive end Shelby Harris. The Broncos were flagged for 10 penalties overall Sunday, while the Chiefs were flagged seven times.

"I'm not going to sit here and complain about the refs because we hurt ourselves. We had a ton of penalties,'' Wolfe said. "But at the end of the day they missed a ton of penalties on things that they had.''

Wolfe also challenged the validity of Kareem Hunt's highlight-worthy touchdown catch-and-run in the third quarter, when Hunt broke several tackles, hurdled Broncos safety Will Parks and pulled Broncos safety Justin Simmons into the end zone to finish the 23-yard play.

"It's supposed to be a dead play, the guy is offsides, the right guard (Andrew Wylie) is offsides,'' Wolfe said. "The right guard is offsides. I went to stand up thinking they were going to call it.''

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...3fplatform=amp

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Here we go with the bet again...

You essentially said 'not above' and I said 'not below'... my only caveat was to take 8-8 off the table, you wouldn't do it. I didn't see a point in doing a bet where a tie made either one of us a winner. Made me believe you weren't so confident and wanted to use the .500 as a fail-safe.

Most here just told you to take it... you didn't and that's too bad. Keep beating that drum though.

You can be right my friend. I'll bite the bullet and admit I was wrong. It's funny and doesn't even matter to me now. As do most things Denver in origin. You know why? It's that whole MAHOMES EFFECT thingy!

In fact, I'm looking forward to doing exactly what you said, when you said that every fan base should get to enjoy the thrill of having a Franchise QB that has them in the running for the Super Bowl most every year. As you said, as a fan base, we certainly have been through a lot and deserve it. I'm ALL IN!

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by TEX

Oh, I do my friend. Completely. And, I also admitted that I used the wrong wording. And, explained exactly what I meant. I'm sure you can understand that, and I'm also quite sure that you just don't want to. It's what you do with everything. I get you bro.

I don't know whether you get me or not, but post 174 shows you don't know how to use the language.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't know whether you get me or not, but post 174 shows you don't know how to use the language.

And post 180, and several others, shows that I admitted my mistake and chose better wording. That shows a full understanding of the language...
Many of your posts show how foolish you can be on a particular point that you want to make, regardless if there is any admission of a mistake by the other party, and subsequent correction of said mistake. To be clear, my previous statement is what I meant when I said, "I get you bro."

[tooge]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syNyYjWw6jY

There you go... you can relive that game all right there.

Around the 30:30 mark is the infamous moment. Even took a referee's TO to correct it and that crowd loved it.

Funny thing about that which I never understood. It's silicone spray. You can't just wipe that off fabric with a towel. LOL. What a sham

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by TEX

And post 180, and several others, shows that I admitted my mistake and chose better wording. That shows a full understanding of the language...
Many of your posts show how foolish you can be on a particular point that you want to make, regardless if there is any admission of a mistake by the other party, and subsequent correction of said mistake. To be clear, my previous statement is what I meant when I said, "I get you bro."

I'm glad that you admit you're wrong and I'm glad that I played a part educating you on that point.

I never really noticed you much before, but between your tenuous grasp of the language, this lack of humility in the face of being called on your own mistake, and the stolen baseballs, I haven't been impressed now that I do.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm glad that you admit you're wrong and I'm glad that I played a part educating you on that point.

I never really noticed you much before, but between your tenuous grasp of the language, this lack of humility in the face of being called on your own mistake, and the stolen baseballs, I haven't been impressed now that I do.

Well dang - I feel kind of lucky that you never have noticed me before. Perhaps its because I don't engage with self righteous know-it-alls on the BB. I have noticed you before, and noticed that you always have plenty of nothing to say about things that you butt into, yet know nothing about. So, let's just keep being mutually unimpressed with each other and move on.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by TEX

Well dang - I feel kind of lucky that you never have noticed me before. Perhaps its because I don't engage with self righteous know-it-alls on the BB. I have noticed you before, and noticed that you always have plenty of nothing to say about things that you butt into, yet know nothing about. So, let's just keep being mutually unimpressed with each other and move on.

It's not your fault, the Mahomes Effect causes valuable blood to leave the brain and head south; spelling and grammar can suffer.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Claysexual

It's not your fault, the Mahomes Effect causes valuable blood to leave the brain and head south; spelling and grammar can suffer.

TRUTH!

[Naptown Chief]

Originally Posted by Claysexual

It's not your fault, the Mahomes Effect causes valuable blood to leave the brain and head south; spelling and grammar can suffer.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Hey, for the last 3 years... a few of you have definitely been more right than wrong. And, you sure should have taken that bet. Funny, for someone so sure of their ramblings, you wouldn't walk from 8-8 --- funny.

The bet was the Donks would go 1-4 over a 5 game stretch. I thought they would beat the Giants at home as they were awful. They went 0-5...the rest of the betting drama was with Tex or another poster.

I also said I didnt want you banned...I was looking out for your well-being. You're welcome...