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[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

what did Little measure in at?

Have yet to see a report with it. I've been looking. That said, Little had some pretty serious pass blocking issues that you'd have hoped to see him work out over time but injury and covid...

[The Franchise]

Know who has over 33” arms? Lucas ****ing Niang.

[UChieffyBugger]

Stone Forsythe arms are over 34 according to his pro day results.

[Chris Meck]

Here's why I think Little may well be the guy we take, and most likely at #63.

1)It's literally a repeat of the Niang pick. First round value talent, drops due to an injury.

2)He fits the physical measurables; all the traits Reid looks for. His pass blocking is his strength too.

3)Dummies don't go to Stanford. This is a smart kid. He's going to have the mental wherewithal to handle whatever they want him to teach him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Here's why I think Little may well be the guy we take, and most likely at #63.

1)It's literally a repeat of the Niang pick. First round value talent, drops due to an injury.

2)He fits the physical measurables; all the traits Reid looks for. His pass blocking is his strength too.

3)Dummies don't go to Stanford. This is a smart kid. He's going to have the mental wherewithal to handle whatever they want him to teach him.

I agree.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Here's why I think Little may well be the guy we take, and most likely at #63.

1)It's literally a repeat of the Niang pick. First round value talent, drops due to an injury.

2)He fits the physical measurables; all the traits Reid looks for. His pass blocking is his strength too.

3)Dummies don't go to Stanford. This is a smart kid. He's going to have the mental wherewithal to handle whatever they want him to teach him.

I really disagree on pass blocking being his strength and I can say confidently I'm very much not alone there. Agility issues, specifically opening and aligning his hips, and letting guys into his chest were huge problems. I think he has the ability to learn and get better there, but there's a difference between that and it being a strength.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I really disagree on pass blocking being his strength and I can say confidently I'm very much not alone there. Agility issues, specifically opening and aligning his hips, and letting guys into his chest were huge problems. I think he has the ability to learn and get better there, but there's a difference between that and it being a strength.

that's not what any scouting reports I've read say.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

that's not what any scouting reports I've read say.

Here's some knocks for you. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a hell of a developmental guy but I'd be remiss if I didn't think he also has some serious flaws to work out before he is counted upon at the pro level. That said, I don't think he has major, uncorrectable shortcomings. Maybe an NFL coach thinks he can knock enough of the bad out of him in one training camp?

he tends to overcompensate for his lack of lateral quickness by getting his upper body involved, which often leaves him off-balance and susceptible to inside counters.

However, in some games, he showed weakness — both inside and out — against speed rushers.

His Pass Blocking footwork is an absolute mess. Everything you can think to do wrong, he does at one point or another. Whether it's giving up a sack because his feet collide during his kick slide Or maybe Losing his balance because he turns his hips early.

Cons: Little’s biggest warning sign is his lack of bend along the edge and the issues that he causes against more athletic pass rushers. This issue shows especially against pass rushers who use an inside move, which Little does very little to stop, essentially giving pass rushers a free lane to the quarterback, allowing six sacks in the four games of film I watched. Along with these issues Little doesn’t engage in blocks with enough power and strength to deter blockers or take defensive backs out of plays. Little’s flaws show in both the pass and run game, meaning teams should be wary of using a high selection on him.

Little was a very complex study based on the hype surrounding him, in comparison to his play on the field...

Consistency is going to be the common theme here, but first, let's start with his feet. Little's footwork improved as the season went on, but I don't believe he will ever have the feet to be a natural fit on the blind side. That's not to say Little can't play there, but the more athletic pass rushers in the Pac-12 gave him some issues, and I just don't see him being able to consistently shut down the quicker edge rushers at the next level without help. As I've mentioned, Little took major steps forward in the second half of the year, but he can still get more consistent in a number of areas. For starters, he is not always on balance. Sometimes his footwork was too clunky, while other times his pad level was too high, but the result was him playing with poor balance, and that's a recipe for disaster. His balance also occasionally affected his ability to time his punch. Little is usually good about timing his punch accordingly in order to get the most out of his long arms, but when you don't have a good base, it makes this a much more difficult task.

Little, in my opinion, saw some struggles in pass protection during his solid 2018 season, allowing double-digit pressures including six combined sacks and hits. He was also penalized five times, so I was really looking forward to him taking his skills to another level in 2019

While Walker Little has good lateral agility and always seems to be in the right position he lacks the consistent balance and core strength to lock down defenders on a regular basis. Late in their game against Notre Dame really highlighted this as Little was abused by power moves that often left him knocked off balance and the defender being able to get quarterback hits which lead to two interceptions and another near pick. Whether it is having his feet too close to each other during his lateral slides or just lacking the anchor he’s too easily displaced by defenders.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Here's some knocks for you. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a hell of a developmental guy but I'd be remiss if I didn't think he also has some serious flaws to work out before he is counted upon at the pro level. That said, I don't think he has major, uncorrectable shortcomings. Maybe an NFL coach thinks he can knock enough of the bad out of him in one training camp?

fair enough.

I think those criticisms all say 'raw' to me, which I would expect. I'd also expect a Stanford kid to learn fast.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Here's why I think Little may well be the guy we take, and most likely at #63.

1)It's literally a repeat of the Niang pick. First round value talent, drops due to an injury.

2)He fits the physical measurables; all the traits Reid looks for. His pass blocking is his strength too.

3)Dummies don't go to Stanford. This is a smart kid. He's going to have the mental wherewithal to handle whatever they want him to teach him.

Would be more like the Willie Gay pick IMO. Measurables there and upside is big, but don’t play all that much ball in college.

[Otter]

Calling it now: trading up for Teven Jenkins.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Otter

Calling it now: trading up for Teven Jenkins.

Prototypical RT that doesn't have the measurable Andy likes.

I don't think it happens.

[RunKC]

1. Terrance Marshall WR LSU
2. Walker Little OT Stanford
3. Daelin Hayes DE Notre Dame

Who says no to this?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by RunKC

1. Terrance Marshall WR LSU
2. Walker Little OT Stanford
3. Daelin Hayes DE Notre Dame

Who says no to this?

Welp....I just came.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

1. Terrance Marshall WR LSU
2. Walker Little OT Stanford
3. Daelin Hayes DE Notre Dame

Who says no to this?

I like Hayes, but I think there will be better pass rushers available at 94.

Give me Odeyingbo or Turner and I’d be thrilled.