Chiefs The MVS no call is the worst no call I've ever seen - Page 13

RunKC · 12-03-2023, 10:31 PM

How in the **** do you not call that? I've never ever seen such an obvious penalty by a DB in my life, and I've watched some shitty as corners in my Chiefs fandom.

Just unbelievable

RedinTexas · 12-04-2023, 11:37 AM

When I was flying in the Air Force we had an acronym for continuous mistakes made in an effort to compensate for a previous mistake. It's called Pilot Induced Oscillation, or PIO. The aircraft is descending so you pull back on the stick to stop the descent. However, you corrected a little too much, so you push forward on the stick to get back down. You find that you overcorrected again, and you pull back on the stick. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. Before you know it you're out of control because you overcorrect.

One quick fix that should be done is to eliminate "make-up" calls. Make every single call the way it should be made and live with the consequences of mistakes. Last night was a great example of what happens when you start making bigger mistakes with "make-up" calls and the whole situation snowballs into a catastrophic PR problem for the NFL.

Refried · 12-04-2023, 11:43 AM

It was a pretty bad call, but I can't try and act like it was the worst. Especially considering the situation/implications of this game vs. where bad calls have happened before. We should have never been in a situation to need the call in the first place.

MagicHef · 12-04-2023, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I generally agree, but I'll also point out the fatal flaw that referees make the calls live on split-second notice, while we as fans get to see half a dozen angles of slow motion replay 20 seconds later. Any mistake will be identified immediately, such as a defender nailing MVS in the back to prevent him from winning the game on a long touchdown catch. We can see that quickly.

This. Watching the MVS play live, my thoughts were:

-Was that DPI?
-Oh, I guess not
*replay*
-Whoa, that really was DPI

If they're going to show the audience exactly how the refs screwed up, they need to have some method for the refs to use that same information in their calls.

RedinTexas · 12-04-2023, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

This. Watching the MVS play live, my thoughts were:

-Was that DPI?
-Oh, I guess not
*replay*
-Whoa, that really was DPI

If they're going to show the audience exactly how the refs screwed up, they need to have some method for the refs to use that same information in their calls.

I saw that play as an egregious DPI without needing a replay. It was unbelievably obvious live. The replay only served to emphasize just how badly the refs blew it.

kccrow · 12-04-2023, 11:53 AM

This and the hands to the face against Danna were two of the most obvious penalties that went uncalled I've probably seen in years. Just unfathomable. The hold against our LB on their big run late was also pretty bad, shoulder pad were completely twisted with the runner going by.

room152 · 12-04-2023, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Wait, are you saying that the hit on Mahomes was NOT unnecessary roughness? You realize they make that call with the QB running OOB 99 outta 100 times, right? It doesn't matter what time we are at in the game - it gets called.

PM was clearly in bounds and it was a legal hit. I disagree they call that 99 out of 100 times. Just being objective. It was a terrible call. I think it's why they didn't call the obvious PI call

Rainbarrel · 12-04-2023, 12:05 PM

Were both calls on the same down? Asking for a Sonic scavenger sparrow

LagunaSWana · 12-04-2023, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ghak99

I see detailed breakdowns of complete game balls/strikes show up on my social media feeds quite often. Umps getting massive amounts of positive responses for doing a great job. The only ones I see getting hammered by more than the usual emotional spur of the moment loss fans are the the terrible ****s who use the union and race card with threats of legal action to keep their jobs.

Maybe they exist, but I've never seen detailed breakdown on the NFL stripes. If they don't have to do post game pressers, it's beyond time someone starts calling out the bullshit in another way.

I see those breakdowns too, and about the only time I see umps getting positive responses is when they are getting 98%+ ball/strike calls correct (which is an absurdly good %). Hernandez and Bucknor get ripped all the time, and they certainly don't help themselves most of the time.

teedubya · 12-04-2023, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Given that MVS was the intended receiver, it was ruled uncatchable.

HAHAHA. Oh man, that's the first laugh I've had since that shit show last night. Nicely done.

crispystl · 12-04-2023, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoForIt

Mahomes said after the game that he was Ok with the no call as he prefers for the refs to let the guys play at the end of the game. I agree with him.

Why do you post here? Nobody wants to read your stupid shit. Go back the Patriots or Bucs or whatever bandwagon team's message board you came from.

room152 · 12-04-2023, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya

HAHAHA. Oh man, that's the first laugh I've had since that shit show last night. Nicely done.

scho63 · 12-04-2023, 12:36 PM

I've seen prison rapes that looked much gentler than that mugging of MVS

Hammock Parties · 12-04-2023, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

I've seen prison rapes that looked much gentler than that mugging of MVS

so you watch gay prison rape porn?

this is your preferred genre?

is this something you do a lot?

scho63 · 12-04-2023, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Laying all over a WR is apparently not enough to restrict him from catching the ball..

He pretty much jumped on his back

**Bowser** · 12-04-2023, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GoForIt

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...wanting-a-flag

Mahomes has to say that, and it shows what a fantastic leader he is.

Doesn't mean he agrees with the non-call, though. He was ****ing pissed on the field directly after the play.

12-03-2023, 10:31 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1490389	The MVS no call is the worst no call I've ever seen How in the **** do you not call that? I've never ever seen such an obvious penalty by a DB in my life, and I've watched some shitty as corners in my Chiefs fandom. Just unbelievable
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12-04-2023, 11:37 AM	#181
RedinTexas Veteran Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Texas Casino cash: $-300000	When I was flying in the Air Force we had an acronym for continuous mistakes made in an effort to compensate for a previous mistake. It's called Pilot Induced Oscillation, or PIO. The aircraft is descending so you pull back on the stick to stop the descent. However, you corrected a little too much, so you push forward on the stick to get back down. You find that you overcorrected again, and you pull back on the stick. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. Before you know it you're out of control because you overcorrect. One quick fix that should be done is to eliminate "make-up" calls. Make every single call the way it should be made and live with the consequences of mistakes. Last night was a great example of what happens when you start making bigger mistakes with "make-up" calls and the whole situation snowballs into a catastrophic PR problem for the NFL.
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12-04-2023, 11:43 AM	#182
Refried Starter Join Date: Oct 2023 Casino cash: $-729500	It was a pretty bad call, but I can't try and act like it was the worst. Especially considering the situation/implications of this game vs. where bad calls have happened before. We should have never been in a situation to need the call in the first place.
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12-04-2023, 11:53 AM	#185
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1140000	This and the hands to the face against Danna were two of the most obvious penalties that went uncalled I've probably seen in years. Just unfathomable. The hold against our LB on their big run late was also pretty bad, shoulder pad were completely twisted with the runner going by.
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12-04-2023, 12:05 PM	#187
Rainbarrel MVP Join Date: Mar 2021 Casino cash: $-699600	Were both calls on the same down? Asking for a Sonic scavenger sparrow
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