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TLO · 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM

The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 24, 2019

jaa1025 · 02-05-2019, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

They have Reiter at C. He only started a couple of games and looked just okay at best. I agree with drafting a new C. That's priority #1 if we're going to draft OL.

But honestly... priority #2 for me is REALLY ensuring that Mahomes is safe at the bookends. I've hated the idea going back to midway through Alex's time here that one of our short-armed bowling ball OGs is Mahomes' blindside protection should Fisher go down. Or maybe they move Schwartz over and put in somebody at RT. Either way, as good as Schwartz is, I'd rather get a line of development going at the OT position and secure those backup spots with real OTs.

The whole, "this guy has OL versatility" is crucially important and all, and occasionally it can uncover some gems, such as finding out that Fulton and even Devey are actually pretty damn good OCs. But I absolutely hate chancing it like that on the OT position. One ACL tear is all it takes for our deadly passing attack to get severely neutered all because Cameron freakin Erving looks like an elephant in clown makeup on roller skates when he's filling in at LT.

As for the LG position, I'm still gonna say no. We redshirted McKenzie all season. He was on the 53 man roster all year. 1 of 53 spots was taken up by his fat ass on the bench all year. All because we were afraid he would be scooped up by some team if we tried to send him to the practice squad. That's the same approach we took with LDT if you recall. If he weren't making progress and moving towards something respectable in team practices, one would imagine Reid and Veach would be more interested in freeing up that extra roster spot, especially with so many OL guys already on the team (didn't we wind up with like 10 OL by the end of the season or something like that?)

And to be honest, the same goes for Jimmy Murray. Dude had a looooot of inactive weeks that we carried him on. If he were just a guy that the team didn't think could make a difference next year, we would have either left him on the practice squad or hoped we could have brought him back next offseason to compete in training camp... or just flushed him down the toilet.

No, you don't pass on worthy OL prospects if they fall to you in the draft just because you have those two, but I don't think the Chiefs see LG as that big of a deal to fix. And to be quite honest, I'm not going to be surprised if they also let the draft go by without drafting a replacement for Morse, either.

Reiter was set to be the starting C for the Browns until he injured his leg or something else. He can be a quality starting center for the Chiefs.

I could see McKenzie taking the LG position. He's going to be a monster. They kept him on the roster for a reason. That could slide Irving to the backup G/C or move him to starting C over Reiter.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 02-05-2019, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

Reiter was set to be the starting C for the Browns until he injured his leg or something else. He can be a quality starting center for the Chiefs.

I could see McKenzie taking the LG position. He's going to be a monster. They kept him on the roster for a reason. That could slide Irving to the backup G/C or move him to starting C over Reiter.

Irving sucks ass at center. Guard is his best position. Fisher and Schwartz are set at tackles. Wylie needs to be starting. Get him to LG. Start Reiter at Center or Devey. They both did really good. Morse can go. He’s really good. Hasn’t given up a sack since 2015 but he will cost money. LDT slides back in at RG. Set. WR you have Hill, Watkins and Robinson as for sure locks. Dieter will probably get a spot because he plays really good special teams. Pringle will be here. Dat and Conley are gone. Maybe draft a WR somewhere in the draft.

jaa1025 · 02-05-2019, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

Irving sucks ass at center. Guard is his best position. Fisher and Schwartz are set at tackles. Wylie needs to be starting. Get him to LG. Start Reiter at Center or Devey. They both did really good. Morse can go. He’s really good. Hasn’t given up a sack since 2015 but he will cost money. LDT slides back in at RG. Set. WR you have Hill, Watkins and Robinson as for sure locks. Dieter will probably get a spot because he plays really good special teams. Pringle will be here. Dat and Conley are gone. Maybe draft a WR somewhere in the draft.

Irving is good depth. He played better at LG than most thought he would. I don't think he should be the starter.

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I'm completely fine with Reiter at Center. I don't want Morse back due to his concussion history. You can't count on him being here. I do think they need a quality backup at T though. I'm not sure if they have one on the team.

jaa1025 · 02-05-2019, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Yeah you absolutely pay Fuller and now is the perfect time.

I agree. Right now, Fuller isn't going to command top dollar. I think he has very good potential and in a competent defense, he will perform better. This would be a fantastic time to extend him.

nychief · 02-05-2019, 07:58 AM

If anybody wants to give Morse more than a year, have at. He is a hit away from retirement. I think you welcome him back on a one year deal, Reiter wasn't signed to start. I wouldn't be shocked to see us draft a couple OL this year, including a center.

**RealSNR** · 02-05-2019, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nychief

If anybody wants to give Morse more than a year, have at. He is a hit away from retirement. I think you welcome him back on a one year deal, Reiter wasn't signed to start. I wouldn't be shocked to see us draft a couple OL this year, including a center.

Then just draft the center and say goodbye to Morse. Intend for him to start. If he’s absolute AIDS, re-sign Devey to that stop gap contract.

Morse likely won’t go cheap one year, and if he did, he wouldn’t be happy about us saying, “you’re only around here just in case the new guy can’t get the job done.”

RunKC · 02-05-2019, 08:31 AM

Khalil McKenzie has the perfect body to be a C. His huge ass and tree trunk legs will make it hard for big NT’s to bull rush him. He’s also got really good athleticism for a guy that big.

I think he will replace Morse next year.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-05-2019, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Then just draft the center and say goodbye to Morse. Intend for him to start. If he’s absolute AIDS, re-sign Devey to that stop gap contract.

Morse likely won’t go cheap one year, and if he did, he wouldn’t be happy about us saying, “you’re only around here just in case the new guy can’t get the job done.”

I would think that O-line might be one of the spots they would look to FA for. Not a big contract signing, but maybe pay a little more out for a guy whose time on another team has run out, and who might not be high on the priority list of re-signs for said team?

I say this because with Mahomes playing at such a high level, it seems to me you'd want to plug & play those spots instead of trying to develop a project or two, especially when your defense needs future home-grown talent as badly as KC does.

htismaqe · 02-05-2019, 08:36 AM

McKenzie is not starting at center in 2019.

O.city · 02-05-2019, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Khalil McKenzie has the perfect body to be a C. His huge ass and tree trunk legs will make it hard for big NT’s to bull rush him. He’s also got really good athleticism for a guy that big.

I think he will replace Morse next year.

So you want to start a rookie that's never played center at center in 2019?

pugsnotdrugs19 · 02-05-2019, 08:56 AM

Idk if McKenzie will start at center, LG, or anywhere in 2019, but I wouldn’t write it off. Reid isn’t afraid to throw his linemen into different spots, we know this.

BleedingRed · 02-05-2019, 08:57 AM

I know you guys hate it, and I know we don’t have money.

But i want to make a huge push for CJ Mosley and if not him KJ Wright.... I need a aggressive big fast MLB

htismaqe · 02-05-2019, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Idk if McKenzie will start at center, LG, or anywhere in 2019, but I wouldn’t write it off. Reid isn’t afraid to throw his linemen into different spots, we know this.

He might start at guard. You don't just insert a guy that's never played offense before at the most important position on the line.

htismaqe · 02-05-2019, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I know you guys hate it, and I know we don’t have money.

But i want to make a huge push for CJ Mosley and if not him KJ Wright.... I need a aggressive big fast MLB

I don't hate it. I'd rather pay for a FA LB and devote the draft to the defensive backfield. If you look at the money, drafting CBs is the only way to go.

O.city · 02-05-2019, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't hate it. I'd rather pay for a FA LB and devote the draft to the defensive backfield. If you look at the money, drafting CBs is the only way to go.

Pretty much, but I'd also look for safeties in free agency. It's a lot cheaper than corners.

I have a sneaking suspicion they'll end up with Earl Thomas.

I'm on the Devin Bush in round 1 bandwagon now too.

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