***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Because i'm not sick? Why the **** would i get tested if i don't have symptoms?

Also, at even bothering to host the NCAA tournament sites as they are now since the idea is minimize regional travel for fans.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Because i'm not sick? Why the **** would i get tested if i don't have symptoms?

Dafuq? The only thing "I" can do, is be proactive with sanitation, and be smart about not touching things that don't need to be touched.

Again, there's a difference between panic and simply being aware and cautious.

That nuance seems to have gotten lost.

So if everyone is doing what you’re doing. Why all the panic?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

come on man, show me one comment that’s not on Twitter, where someone wanted grandma and grandpa to die if that gets Trump out of office?

Are you serious? or is this sarcasm. Because.........

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

When did you get tested?

I guess this is still just a stupid game to you?

Like 6k tests total have been run in this country. No one can just get right now tested unless you're very sick or high up in govt.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Why would I get tested?

Do you not agree this is a crisis?

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Well see thats the thing with the coronavirus... You don't have to show symptoms, WHO says some people have it and never exhibited any symptoms. I mean I don't think you should be tested, I'm just saying.

I agree, asymptomatic transmission creates issues for containment.
It seems like children are more likely to transmit with mild symptoms

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Do you not agree this is a crisis?

I don't know what I would use the word crisis, as it tends to have emotional connotations. I think this is a serious issue

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I guess this is still just a stupid game to you?

If it was a stupid game everyone wouldn’t be taking these pro cautions. Right?

Just because you feel fine. Who says you aren’t carrying the virus?

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

How are we handling this - closer to S. Korea or closer to Italy?



We're not testing at all. We're still in denial.

.6 is still bare minimum 350k dead in the US and hospitals overwhelmed (which will massively drive up the death rate) if we don't slow the spread of this with drastic measures.

We had it here before Italy.

[BigRedChief]

All march madness games will be played without crowds.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I don't know what I would use the word crisis, as it tends to have emotional connotations. I think this is a serious issue

I can agree with this, can we agree that maybe we are taking actions a little to drastic that in hindsight we will see as being a overraction. I don't care anymore because cat is out of the bag.

But,
Being realistic in my OPINION we might be over blowing the **** out of this.

[Discuss Thrower]

Several MLB teams are currently aware that they might have to at least move home games to start the season, per sources. Not just Seattle.

— Andy Martino (@martinonyc) March 11, 2020

Just cancel the season, lol.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

If it was a stupid game everyone wouldn’t be taking these pro cautions. Right?

Just because you feel fine. Who says you aren’t carrying the virus?

It's statistically unlikely. We are not even testing everyone with symptoms at this point. Asymptomatic testing would create a test shortage.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I can agree with this, can we agree that maybe we are taking actions a little to drastic that in hindsight we will see as being a overraction. I don't care anymore because cat is out of the bag.

But,
Being realistic in my OPINION we might be over blowing the **** out of this.

I sure hope we can look back and say certain steps were not necessary.

I trust that these big decisions are not being made on a whim.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Several MLB teams are currently aware that they might have to at least move home games to start the season, per sources. Not just Seattle.

— Andy Martino (@martinonyc) March 11, 2020

Just cancel the season, lol.

Hahah we are just stacking up the Billions in lost revenue and wages now. I hope it turns out to be nothing to worry about other than a seasonal bug. But my god people......