Cardinals "Official" 2011 St. Louis Cardinals Thread - Page 132

**BigRedChief** · 02:10 PM

This is so unreal. We were dead. No hope. A season over. Somehow, someway we find some team chemistry and squeak into the playoffs on the last day of the season.

Only to find us facing one of the best pitching staffs assembled in years with home field advantage. We somehow, someway find a way to beat the best pitcher in baseball on the road in an elimination game.

We have to go on the road and beat the team with the best home record in baseball. A team who mortgaged their future to make this run .We somehow, someway find a way to beat them on the road and make our 18th World series trip.

We take game 1, we give away game 2 and home field advantage. Albert goes off for probably the best performance in World Series history and we take game 3 easily. Games 4 & 5 our bats fall asleep, Phone gate happens and its not looking too good.

Game 6, one of the best baseball games of all time and it takes place in a season ending go home game. Cardinals are down 2 runs in their final chance on the season, twice. They are down to their final strike of the season, twice. They give up a 2 run homer in extra innings. In the bottom of the inning their final 3 batters are a combined 3-26 in the Playoffs and a pitcher because the bench is empty. Somehow, someway they get some runners on and the comeback player of the year drives in the tying run. Mr. Freese hits the walk off home run. We will see you tommorrow night.

Game 7, With our bulldog on the mound pitching on 3 days rest he is able to give us 6 good innings and get us to within 9 outs of our 11 World series title. Texas meltsdown, probably left over from last nights game and its over.

The underdog, come back team who had no business even being in the playoffs wins a World championship. They make movies about events like this in life. Events that you remember even if your not a fan of the sport or team for the rest of your life.

When it is your team.......Priceless

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**BigRedChief** · 07-06-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And the comeback is wasted.

I'm glad that they didn't lay down and take the trimming. Believing you can come back in any game is important to any team with playoff aspirations.

**BigRedChief** · 07-06-2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

lolwut

They have to have a body just in case of these situations but this miller situation is turning into a Franklin type situation but for a different reason? Has he not been released because of his family situation?

Jewish Rabbi · 07-06-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

They have to have a body just in case of these situations but this miller situation is turning into a Franklin type situation but for a different reason? Has he not been released because of his family situation?

What do you propose them to do at this point? They're throwing everyone they can in the bullpen hoping someone sticks. They pretty much all suck right now.

**BigRedChief** · 07-06-2011, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

What do you propose them to do at this point? They're throwing everyone they can in the bullpen hoping someone sticks. They pretty much all suck right now.

I disagree. We have keepers.

Salas
Sanchez
Boggs
Lynn

**BigRedChief** · 07-07-2011, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And the comeback is wasted.

a few weeks ago we would have saw Franklin and Batista and it would have been 12-0 and the team just take the trimming. Now, I'm sure privately that the players didn't expect Dickson and Lynn (their replacements) to perform at the level they have, so far. But its got to improve the moral to see the bleeding stopped instead of your pitchers out of the pen just making it worse.

**BigRedChief** · 07-07-2011, 07:27 AM

What do you guys think of the rumors that the Cards offered Jay or Craig to San Diego for Belll and SD countered with one of these three (Miller, Martinez or Rasmus).

I don't make any of these deals.

You don't trade possible #1 or #2 future starters for any deal.
Rasmus is under our control for another 3 years. He's cheap. And with Pujols and Waino's contracts coming up, we need cheap.
Berkman is a one year deal. Consider ourselfs lucky we got one year out of him. He is going to want a 2 year deal after this season and it will be a crapshoot if he can reproduce this season at his age.
Jay has shown me that maybe he can be an everyday major leaguer. I think Craig can be a good major leaguer for years. Both are cheap and under control. Will both be needed next year.

How do we get bullpen help then? You have to give up something to get soemthing in return. My uninformed opinion is that the bullpen has given up at least 6 wins above the MLB average which means we would have a 6 game lead in the division if our bullpen was average.

that being said because of the cost to make a move right now, I say just wait till the off season to acquire bullpen help.

**BigRedChief** · 07-07-2011, 04:51 PM

Tweet that Garcia is getting an extension through 2017.

GoldeMichael Michael Golde
Hearing rumor: Pending a physical, the Cardinals have extended Jaime Garcia. 4 yrs $27.5M guaranteed, team options in ’16 and ’17

Marcellus · 07-07-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Tweet that Garcia is getting an extension through 2017.

GoldeMichael Michael Golde
Hearing rumor: Pending a physical, the Cardinals have extended Jaime Garcia. 4 yrs $27.5M guaranteed, team options in ’16 and ’17

At least he has already had TJ surgery.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-07-2011, 05:37 PM

Looking like at least a rain delay tonight, it's raining like hell in the burbs right now.

VAChief · 07-07-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

What do you guys think of the rumors that the Cards offered Jay or Craig to San Diego for Belll and SD countered with one of these three (Miller, Martinez or Rasmus).

I don't make any of these deals.

You don't trade possible #1 or #2 future starters for any deal.
Rasmus is under our control for another 3 years. He's cheap. And with Pujols and Waino's contracts coming up, we need cheap.
Berkman is a one year deal. Consider ourselfs lucky we got one year out of him. He is going to want a 2 year deal after this season and it will be a crapshoot if he can reproduce this season at his age.
Jay has shown me that maybe he can be an everyday major leaguer. I think Craig can be a good major leaguer for years. Both are cheap and under control. Will both be needed next year.

How do we get bullpen help then? You have to give up something to get soemthing in return. My uninformed opinion is that the bullpen has given up at least 6 wins above the MLB average which means we would have a 6 game lead in the division if our bullpen was average.

that being said because of the cost to make a move right now, I say just wait till the off season to acquire bullpen help.

Bell doesn't excite me, he is far from a shut down closer and that is the only way I trade any of our young talent right now. He certainly would help, but we already have addition by subtraction recently, I would like to see how that develops a bit longer before dealing our young depth. We have Lynn, Boggs, Salas and hopefully Sanchez to use down the stretch. I would rather try for a more reliable lefty. We have enough power right handed arms.

seclark · 07-07-2011, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Tweet that Garcia is getting an extension through 2017.

GoldeMichael Michael Golde
Hearing rumor: Pending a physical, the Cardinals have extended Jaime Garcia. 4 yrs $27.5M guaranteed, team options in ’16 and ’17

hmmm...if this is fact, i like it.
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Frazod · 07-07-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Looking like at least a rain delay tonight, it's raining like hell in the burbs right now.

Well, after the abuse our shaky-already bullpen suffered last night, that's really not a bad thing.

**BigRedChief** · 07-07-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by seclark

hmmm...if this is fact, i like it.
sec

It's not a done deal but Garcia is talking publically about the extension and security being a good thing.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-08-2011, 06:36 PM

Goddamn, Berkman's a ****ing machine.

If not for him and Holliday, this team would be lingering around the Cubs and Astros in the standings.

**BigRedChief** · 07-08-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Goddamn, Berkman's a ****ing machine.

If not for him and Holliday, this team would be lingering around the Cubs and Astros in the standings.

If we had an average pen we would be 6 games up on everyone else.

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BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-871038 VARSITY	"Official" 2011 St. Louis Cardinals Thread This is so unreal. We were dead. No hope. A season over. Somehow, someway we find some team chemistry and squeak into the playoffs on the last day of the season. Only to find us facing one of the best pitching staffs assembled in years with home field advantage. We somehow, someway find a way to beat the best pitcher in baseball on the road in an elimination game. We have to go on the road and beat the team with the best home record in baseball. A team who mortgaged their future to make this run .We somehow, someway find a way to beat them on the road and make our 18th World series trip. We take game 1, we give away game 2 and home field advantage. Albert goes off for probably the best performance in World Series history and we take game 3 easily. Games 4 & 5 our bats fall asleep, Phone gate happens and its not looking too good. Game 6, one of the best baseball games of all time and it takes place in a season ending go home game. Cardinals are down 2 runs in their final chance on the season, twice. They are down to their final strike of the season, twice. They give up a 2 run homer in extra innings. In the bottom of the inning their final 3 batters are a combined 3-26 in the Playoffs and a pitcher because the bench is empty. Somehow, someway they get some runners on and the comeback player of the year drives in the tying run. Mr. Freese hits the walk off home run. We will see you tommorrow night. Game 7, With our bulldog on the mound pitching on 3 days rest he is able to give us 6 good innings and get us to within 9 outs of our 11 World series title. Texas meltsdown, probably left over from last nights game and its over. The underdog, come back team who had no business even being in the playoffs wins a World championship. They make movies about events like this in life. Events that you remember even if your not a fan of the sport or team for the rest of your life. When it is your team.......Priceless . Attached Thumbnails Last edited by BigRedChief; 10-29-2011 at 02:10 PM..
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07-07-2011, 07:27 AM	#1971
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-871038 VARSITY	What do you guys think of the rumors that the Cards offered Jay or Craig to San Diego for Belll and SD countered with one of these three (Miller, Martinez or Rasmus). I don't make any of these deals. You don't trade possible #1 or #2 future starters for any deal. Rasmus is under our control for another 3 years. He's cheap. And with Pujols and Waino's contracts coming up, we need cheap. Berkman is a one year deal. Consider ourselfs lucky we got one year out of him. He is going to want a 2 year deal after this season and it will be a crapshoot if he can reproduce this season at his age. Jay has shown me that maybe he can be an everyday major leaguer. I think Craig can be a good major leaguer for years. Both are cheap and under control. Will both be needed next year. How do we get bullpen help then? You have to give up something to get soemthing in return. My uninformed opinion is that the bullpen has given up at least 6 wins above the MLB average which means we would have a 6 game lead in the division if our bullpen was average. that being said because of the cost to make a move right now, I say just wait till the off season to acquire bullpen help. __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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07-07-2011, 04:51 PM	#1972
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-871038 VARSITY	Tweet that Garcia is getting an extension through 2017. GoldeMichael Michael Golde Hearing rumor: Pending a physical, the Cardinals have extended Jaime Garcia. 4 yrs $27.5M guaranteed, team options in ’16 and ’17 __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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07-08-2011, 06:36 PM	#1979
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021115	Goddamn, Berkman's a ****ing machine. If not for him and Holliday, this team would be lingering around the Cubs and Astros in the standings.
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