Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-13-2014, 06:39 PM  
ShowtimeSBMVP ShowtimeSBMVP is offline
Chiefs
 
ShowtimeSBMVP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Casino cash: $1256009
WR Emmanuel Sanders signs with Denver - Executives cry foul

Executives crying foul over Emmanuel Sanders deal

By Ian Rapoport NFL.com
NFL Media Insider
Published: March 16, 2014 at 12:05 a.m. Updated: March 16, 2014 at 12:19 a.m. 8 Likes | 2 Comments
Email Print
Read Discuss
Emmanuel Sanders is expected to sign with the Broncos tomorrow, but the process that led him there left the other teams involved fuming and crying foul. One team official claimed Sanders' agent broke "every rule in negotiations."

Agent Steve Weinberg, on behalf of the receiver, accepted a deal with the Chiefs in principle, according to one team source. Weinberg then engaged in negotiations with the Tampa Bay Bucs, according to another source involved in the process.

While shopping the Chiefs offer to the Bucs, Weinberg never explained that he had already accepted the terms of Kansas City's offer. Later in the night, Sanders' agent had agreed to terms with the Broncos, which is where he is currently headed. Sanders and Weinberg also rankled the 49ers by agreeing to visit, then blowing it off.

"This was one of the worst situations in modern football negotiations," one executive involved said. "Totally wrong. This needs to be stopped."

Reached at his home late Saturday, Weinberg declined to comment on the record when informed of the allegations.

The Dallas-based agent was recently reinstated by the NFL Players Association, which had barred and decertified him in 2003 because it had reportedly found he diverted assets to an offshore account during a dispute with a partner and collecting a fee from a client prematurely. Weinberg later filed suit against the NFLPA and its top officials, alleging they illegally took away his certification for eight years, along with past, present and future income of clients.

Weinberg has two clients currently on NFL teams, not including Sanders. He had 42 before he was barred.

While Weinberg broke no laws in accepting a deal, the entire situation infuriated those he dealt with. It is commonly accepted in the league that once two sides agree to a deal -- in writing or in handshake form -- that's the end of the story. Instead, by Weinberg shopping the Chiefs deal and then not informing the Bucs that a deal had been reached showed another side of the business. It is unclear if the Broncos were aware of the previous actions.

"When a man gives you his words and pulls out," one executive said, "then gives another team your word and pulls out, then gives another team his word ... Not proper."


Adam Schefter ✔ @AdamSchefter
Follow
Denver is giving former Steelers WR Emmanuel Sanders a 3-year, $15M contract. Team announced agreement.

Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 03-16-2014 at 11:13 AM..
Posts: 23,832
ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.ShowtimeSBMVP has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:03 AM   #1966
Mother****erJones Mother****erJones is offline
Can't Use That Disney Ass Name
 
Mother****erJones's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Casino cash: $10015211
Schefter is a donkey loving one who sucks the penis. He'll clear Denver and make them innocent.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
The only people who believe Mahomes is a first rounder are desperate fans.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe View Post
McCaffery could be a top 5-7 RB, top 5 PR, and the #1 slot receiver in the league day one. There isn't a GM in the league who'd rather have Tyreek Hill over Christian McCaffery.
Posts: 23,919
Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:03 AM   #1967
Bowser Bowser is offline
sorta mod-ish
 
Bowser's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: KC North
Casino cash: $-138384
Well. Piss on all of this. I'm going to bed. **** Denver. GOOD NIGHT NOW
Posts: 106,751
Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:03 AM   #1968
kcpasco kcpasco is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Sep 2007
Casino cash: $6143463
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief View Post
And for all saying Sanders is some innocent player with no idea of anything, just remember that his agent's past is well-documented and well-known.

It will be interesting to see how this story unfolds. And how long it takes before Adam Shefter puts out a story somehow clearing the Broncos/Sanders/Elway, isolating the agent as rogue and the Broncos as blind to the truth.

Count on it.
Guarantee that douche Schefter is writing the spin article already.
Posts: 15,945
kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kcpasco 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:05 AM   #1969
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $-1675912
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13 View Post
You're normally pretty reasonable so I'm not sure why you've gone off the deep end here.

Sure in hindsight he should've signed something. What do you think Dorsey was going to say? "Hold on buddy! We don't trust you! Wait here until the contract is printed out."

You're asking him to do something that literally never happens. Dorsey negotiated in good faith. He got burned. Sanders really didn't want to be here. End of the story.
i guess I'm going off what I've known about NFL contract negotiations in the past and not factoring in the douche factor enough.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby View Post
Jesus **** you are that dumb.

Coming to an agreement and signing a deal are two different things. All the parts of the contract are hammered out before an actual formal contract is presented. How ****ing hard of a concept is this?
The agents usually have their legal representation with them when they agree to terms.

After that step is usually only the teams physical that needs to take place before the actual contract is signed.

Are you trying to say that there was no contract at all that the agent and KC had both agreed to?
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,896
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:08 AM   #1970
tk13 tk13 is offline
...
 
tk13's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Casino cash: $-1797500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mother****erJones View Post
Schefter is a donkey loving one who sucks the penis. He'll clear Denver and make them innocent.
We need a fake Schefter account.

@NotAdamSchefter Sources tell me John Dorsey actually called TB, SF & DEN himself and revealed contract details. Weinberg just went along with it.
Posts: 56,678
tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.tk13 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:10 AM   #1971
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $-1675912
Yup. No doubt that Schefter will go to bat for Denver on this one and the league will resist making an issue out of it to protect the brand. A brand that is headlined by players like Peyton Manning and teams with recent superbowl appearances.

I'd be shocked if the league/NFLPA steps up and makes this situation right.
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,896
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:11 AM   #1972
Mother****erJones Mother****erJones is offline
Can't Use That Disney Ass Name
 
Mother****erJones's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Casino cash: $10015211
Ya I'll be stunned if there's any consequences. They'll sweep this under the matt
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
The only people who believe Mahomes is a first rounder are desperate fans.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe View Post
McCaffery could be a top 5-7 RB, top 5 PR, and the #1 slot receiver in the league day one. There isn't a GM in the league who'd rather have Tyreek Hill over Christian McCaffery.
Posts: 23,919
Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:12 AM   #1973
DenverChief DenverChief is offline
Pedantic
 
DenverChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rocky Ford
Casino cash: $3072617
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post


The agents usually have their legal representation with them when they agree to terms.
I'm assuming you mean players - I'd be Sanders was off "playing" around KC with Chiefs reps while his agent was negotiating the contract - just a guess
Posts: 17,051
DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:14 AM   #1974
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $-1665503
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post
i guess I'm going off what I've known about NFL contract negotiations in the past and not factoring in the douche factor enough.


The agents usually have their legal representation with them when they agree to terms.

After that step is usually only the teams physical that needs to take place before the actual contract is signed.

Are you trying to say that there was no contract at all that the agent and KC had both agreed to?
If this was standard procedure, my guess is that this doesn't happen very often. It was always possible for agents to sidestep the rules. Doesn't make it right. And I'm guessing Weinberg's career is over, at the Chiefs' expense.
Posts: 51,616
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:16 AM   #1975
BryanBusby BryanBusby is offline
In Search of a Life
 
BryanBusby's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2006
Casino cash: $3169900
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post
i guess I'm going off what I've known about NFL contract negotiations in the past and not factoring in the douche factor enough.


The agents usually have their legal representation with them when they agree to terms.

After that step is usually only the teams physical that needs to take place before the actual contract is signed.

Are you trying to say that there was no contract at all that the agent and KC had both agreed to?
According to the story, his agent was declining to comment from his home in Dallas already. Chances are he wasn't even in KC for the process, so it's kinda hard to have representatives there when you aren't even there.

Don't know for sure, but that's what I'd assume.
Posts: 22,633
BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.BryanBusby has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:18 AM   #1976
DenverChief DenverChief is offline
Pedantic
 
DenverChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rocky Ford
Casino cash: $3072617
I can't wrap my head around a fan loved player that posts a youtube video to say "thank you" to Steeler nation would be a douche and play a team/fan base like that
Posts: 17,051
DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:18 AM   #1977
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $-1675912
Quote:
Originally Posted by DenverChief View Post
I'm assuming you mean players - I'd be Saunders was off "playing" around KC with Chiefs reps while his agent was negotiating the contract - just a guess
No. The players job is to tell the agent what things he wants the agent to do for him and its the agents job to negotiate the contract and make sure he keeps the player updated as to what he needs to do to maximize his earning potential based on that contract. Players don't typically have legal council to read through the contract before signing it, that's the job of the agent or sports firm representing him.
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,896
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:18 AM   #1978
Mother****erJones Mother****erJones is offline
Can't Use That Disney Ass Name
 
Mother****erJones's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Casino cash: $10015211
This whole process is like a monkey ****ing a football
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
The only people who believe Mahomes is a first rounder are desperate fans.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe View Post
McCaffery could be a top 5-7 RB, top 5 PR, and the #1 slot receiver in the league day one. There isn't a GM in the league who'd rather have Tyreek Hill over Christian McCaffery.
Posts: 23,919
Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:20 AM   #1979
DenverChief DenverChief is offline
Pedantic
 
DenverChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rocky Ford
Casino cash: $3072617
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post
No. The players job is to tell the agent what things he wants the agent to do for him and its the agents job to negotiate the contract and make sure he keeps the player updated as to what he needs to do to maximize his earning potential based on that contract. Players don't typically have legal council to read through the contract before signing it, that's the job of the agent or sports firm representing him.
I know - what I'm saying is that the player and agent weren't in the same room negotiating the contract. The agent was doing the negotiating while the player did whatever players do - answering his phone when the agent needed his imput
Posts: 17,051
DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.DenverChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2014, 12:23 AM   #1980
Mother****erJones Mother****erJones is offline
Can't Use That Disney Ass Name
 
Mother****erJones's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Casino cash: $10015211
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby View Post
According to the story, his agent was declining to comment from his home in Dallas already. Chances are he wasn't even in KC for the process, so it's kinda hard to have representatives there when you aren't even there.

Don't know for sure, but that's what I'd assume.
Wait, so his agent was back home in Dallas while Sanders is in KC? Boy I'm ****ing lost
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
The only people who believe Mahomes is a first rounder are desperate fans.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe View Post
McCaffery could be a top 5-7 RB, top 5 PR, and the #1 slot receiver in the league day one. There isn't a GM in the league who'd rather have Tyreek Hill over Christian McCaffery.
Posts: 23,919
Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mother****erJones is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:58 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.