***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

How do you get the blogna to not turn into a bell when cooking it. Slots worked somewhat when I was poor.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by 2112

Some people intervene because they interpret a post as political even though you’re not even conversing with them. Had it happen to me this morning by another guy that thinks he’s the Barney fife of the mod team (stumpy)

I'm sorry precious, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings earlier.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by eDave

How do you get the blogna to not turn into a bell when cooking it. Slots worked somewhat when I was poor.

Bacon press or some other device like a bowl to set on top.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Bacon press or some other device like a bowl to set on top.

[limested]

Originally Posted by O.city

I’ve been cutting and burning brush all day. Had a few to many Busch heavys


Just had a fried bologna sandwhich

What have I missed

Apparently you missed developing taste buds at some point in your life if you are eating fried bologna sandwiches as an adult. 😁

[2112]

Originally Posted by stumppy

I'm sorry precious, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings earlier.

Oh they’re not hurt. Just pointing out you’re trying to start shit in this thread when I’m not even conversing with you. Kind of like right now. I ignored you this morning To try not to derail the thread. Like you’re trying to do now.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by eDave

Gotta start training camps first.

Exactly.

Does anyone truly believe that New York, New Jersey, Ohio and California, just to a name a few, will have their orders lifted by the end of July so that NFL Training Camps are allowed to happen?

Sadly, at this point in time, I do not.

[2112]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Exactly.

Does anyone truly believe that New York, New Jersey, Ohio and California, just to a name a few, will have their orders lifted by the end of July so that NFL Training Camps are allowed to happen?

Sadly, at this point in time, I do not.

Thanks Dane. That’s depressing

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 2112

Thanks Dane. That’s depressing

Sorry, Brother.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Exactly.

Does anyone truly believe that New York, New Jersey, Ohio and California, just to a name a few, will have their orders lifted by the end of July so that NFL Training Camps are allowed to happen?

Sadly, at this point in time, I do not.

Wuhan ended their lockdown after about 70 days.

If that same time-frame is followed by the states you listed above, they would end their lockdowns around early June... nearly six weeks before the start of training camps.

[TLO]

Does anyone know what the trend is for states and increasing cases?

That feels poorly worded.. I'm not sure how to ask what I want to ask.

How many days does it typically take from the start of cases to see the peak in the state?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Wuhan ended their lockdown after about 70 days.

If that same time-frame is followed by the states you listed above, they would end their lockdowns around early June... nearly six weeks before the start of training camps.

Wuhan is one city in all of China whereas the NFL has teams in 24 states, all with their own laws and orders.

All it takes is one state and the NFL is shut down.

[limested]

Sitting in the ER. Wife may have broken arm. They have a special section in waiting room for those with respiratory symptoms. Sure hope that covid-19 can’t cross the imaginary barrier that is in place.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Does anyone know what the trend is for states and increasing cases?

That feels poorly worded.. I'm not sure how to ask what I want to ask.

How many days does it typically take from the start of cases to see the peak in the state?

If we hold close to where we are now we are starting to flatten on new cases but not necessarily decline.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by limested

Sitting in the ER. Wife may have broken arm. They have a special section in waiting room for those with respiratory symptoms. Sure hope that covid-19 can’t cross the imaginary barrier that is in place.

They let you both in? And hope your Wife is okay. Better hope she isn't pissed at you too....