Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

The old school videos of Chiefs/Raiders games are kind of horrifying, lol.... looks like they played an entirely different sport back then that wasn't so much focused on winning football games as it was trying to cripple your opponent.

The 1970 Ben Davidson spearing of Len Dawson while he was on the ground during a game that had Title implications was kind of the boiling point in an already bitter rivalry. The Raiders were pissed that the Chiefs had beaten them in the AFC CG in Oakland to go the SB the year before.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by Raiderhater

Rivalries built on respect are kind of boring, TBH. The blood feud that created the old Chiefs Raiders bar brawls is so much more entertaining. Pure, unadulterated hatred is where it’s at for rivalries.

Sadly, not much of that around any more.

Username checks out haha. The analog to that in the AFC North if Steelers/Bengals. Bad blood, cheap shots, OH/PA rivalry. Most seemed to agree it was not a good time.

Then there are the sad rivalries like Ravens/Browns. They are just perpetually furious at what the Ravens became and it's very one sided.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

Oh you already have built in excuses got it.

They aren't excuses. If you guys beat the Chiefs on Sunday, you will have earned it and deserve your flowers. Beating the Chiefs in the playoffs in this era is a major accomplishment, regardless of us having a down year. And I'm sure most of us here would agree that you earned it and were the better team that day, if it happens.

But the pressure is on you guys. You have the team to go all the way. There's no guarantee when you'll be back in the AFCCG. And you have to beat the weakest Chiefs team in 6 years to get there. The pressure is all on the Ravens.

[Nc_Chief]

This is a very entertaining read.

[seamonster]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

And like a fly to a bag of shit, I know you've been waiting for your opportunity to trash Baltimore. Go off, king.

I'm a proud Virginian and I've got stakes with both the Redskins and the Chiefs. I will THOROUGHLY enjoy hearing the Tomahawk Chop serenade these baltimore fans and I hope it reminds a lot of these front-runners of the time they use to root for a team that wasn't an expansion franchise in RFK.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

God help me, but I think I like Bengals fans better, even though they think their diarrhea-like chilli somehow doubles as actual food.

And maybe even more desperate than Bills fans to convince us they're amazing (and they were desperate.... granted, most of them were simply incoherent where as this is a far more passive aggressive spamming vibe.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Username checks out haha. The analog to that in the AFC North if Steelers/Bengals. Bad blood, cheap shots, OH/PA rivalry. Most seemed to agree it was not a good time.

Then there are the sad rivalries like Ravens/Browns. They are just perpetually furious at what the Ravens became and it's very one sided.

Imagine having a rivalry with a team that hasnt won a playoff game in 7 years

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

They aren't excuses. If you guys beat the Chiefs on Sunday, you will have earned it and deserve your flowers. Beating the Chiefs in the playoffs in this era is a major accomplishment, regardless of us having a down year. And I'm sure most of us here would agree that you earned it and were the better team that day, if it happens.

But the pressure is on you guys. You have the team to go all the way. There's no guarantee when you'll be back in the AFCCG. And you have to beat the weakest Chiefs team in 6 years to get there. The pressure is all on the Ravens.

If the Ravens beat the Chiefs on Sunday and it doesn't require OT, they will have accomplished something that nobody else has.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

They aren't excuses. If you guys beat the Chiefs on Sunday, you will have earned it and deserve your flowers. Beating the Chiefs in the playoffs in this era is a major accomplishment, regardless of us having a down year. And I'm sure most of us here would agree that you earned it and were the better team that day, if it happens.

But the pressure is on you guys. You have the team to go all the way. There's no guarantee when you'll be back in the AFCCG. And you have to beat the weakest Chiefs team in 6 years to get there. The pressure is all on the Ravens.

This. If the Chiefs win, it won't be a huge surprise.

The Ravens may win, and they are admittedly the favorite, but everyone is waiting to see whether they can really capitalize on all that potential (I think a lot of people still remember and focus on the 2019 team that was supposedly 'unbeatable' going into the playoffs).

Like Bloody said above, beat the Chiefs and you'll get some flowers.

But if you do, better not choke in the Super Bowl or that narrative on Lamar gonna pop right back up again.

Either way, good luck. I honestly see this as a 50/50 game that could go either way. Neither outcome would surprise me.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Sure.

Lamar has ZERO Super Bowl appearances and ZERO Lombardi's at age 27.

Agreed.

So what exactly are we arguing about?

People insist that one Super Bowl win will change absolutely everything for Lamar's legacy. Which I don't disagree with. But if we're projecting SBs 10+ years into the future with Mahomes, and Lamar is younger than Mahomes, then Lamar has quite a long time to pick up that SB that will supposedly change what people think about him. Sure, Mahomes has proven he can do it. But the Ravens/Lamar have proven they'll repeatedly put themselves in situations that give them as good of a chance as any.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

And maybe even more desperate than Bills fans to convince us they're amazing (and they were desperate.... granted, most of them were simply incoherent where as this is a far more passive aggressive spamming vibe.

I didn't think that was even remotely possible until this thread appeared. It's incredible, actually. Damn near impressive...

[FringeNC]

Chiefs and Ravens yards per play and yards per play allowed are almost identical. Ravens with about a tenth of a yard advantage on both. Difference in records is a function of turnovers. We turned the ball over a ton and didn't get turnovers and the opposite is true for them. Question is, do we think that will hold in the playoffs? If it does, we lose. If it doesn't, my money is on Playoff Pat.

[OneWinningDrive]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

And maybe even more desperate than Bills fans to convince us they're amazing (and they were desperate.... granted, most of them were simply incoherent where as this is a far more passive aggressive spamming vibe.

Amazing what hitting on one quarterback in the crapshoot that is the NFL draft does to a fanbase's estimation of themselves.

This comment plays because you don't know whether I'm talking about the Bills or the Chiefs.

[Tylerthigpen!1!]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

People insist that one Super Bowl win will change absolutely everything for Lamar's legacy. Which I don't disagree with. But if we're projecting SBs 10+ years into the future with Mahomes, and Lamar is younger than Mahomes, then Lamar has quite a long time to pick up that SB that will supposedly change what people think about him. Sure, Mahomes has proven he can do it. But the Ravens/Lamar have proven they'll repeatedly put themselves in situations that give them as good of a chance as any.

Do you think that Lamar's playing style will age well?

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

Robbery. As I'm sure you've heard, Baltimore is a very dangerous slum, especially compared to idyllic Kansas City, Missouri. So oddsmakers are factoring in that there's a very good chance the Chiefs players will be held up at gunpoint before, or even possibly during, the game and have their pads/cleats taken from them.

Probably your best chance to win the game, IMHO