***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

And? It is a problem still today.

And healthcare providers continue to be very concerned.
Are you mad that the media is talking about Covid-19?

I don't even know what your point is.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

A problem for those who didn't get vaccinated, yeah

and those too young to be vaccinated, or with conditions that don't allow them to be vaccinated

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail...urge-worldwide


This is terrifying


Why no outrage?

why do you keep trying to minimize the situation? There is no equivilancy with measles. It’s not apples to apples.

If a white man, even with Nazi beliefs walks into a church, shopping center and murders many people, most just accept that as life in 2020. Nothing changes. Yet, if that white person was instead a Muslim and a member of ISIS, holy hell and panic would be unleashed.

Same gun. Same number of people dead. One thing is different. Yes, this is a virus, not unlike others. But, it’s not the same is it?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

why do you keep trying to minimize the situation? There is no equivilancy with measles. It’s not apples to apples.

If a white man, even with Nazi beliefs walks into a church, shopping center and murders many people, most just accept that as life in 2020. Nothing changes. Yet, if that white person was instead a Muslim and a member of ISIS, holy hell and panic would be unleashed.

Same gun. Same number of people dead. One thing is different. Yes, this is a virus, not unlike others. But, it’s not the same is it?

What kind of stupid ****ing bullshit is this? And YOU want to lecture about false equivalencies? Seriously? Take your horseshit SJW takes out of this thread and into DC.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail...urge-worldwide


This is terrifying


Why no outrage?

You’re doing a great job of showing everyone exactly who you are. Well done.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bowser

What kind of stupid ****ing bullshit is this? And YOU want to lecture about false equivalencies? Seriously? Take your horseshit SJW takes out of this thread and into DC.

I was just giving an illustration/example on how things are viewed differently with one different part. I think it was a great example. Nothing political about it at all. It’s just a fact. You can’t yell and ban me for partisan BS on simple facts. A violent act or murder is viewed differently if it’s a terroist. That’s a partisan take? GTFO.

[Loneiguana]

Not mine:

Let's do some math.

There are 331 million people in the U.S. The best infectious disease modeling epidemiologists in the world predict that 20%--60% of the population will become infected.

Let's start low end and go with 20% infected. That puts us at 66,200,000 infected. Of that number, approximately 20% will need to be hospitalized. That's 13,240,000 who will need hospital beds. They won't ask get sick at the same time, but they will be in the hospital for 3--4 weeks. Per the American Hospital Association, we have ~950,000 hospital beds in the U. S. And they're 70%--90% full when it's not flu season. So, best case scenario, we have 300,000 hospital beds for 13 million people.

Out of the 20% that need to be hospitalized, 20% of them will need ICU care. That's 2,648,000 people. We have ~100,000 ICU beds and they're 90+% full.

[Bugeater]

Can a mod just merge all the coronavirus threads into one giant Coronavirus Mega-Trainwreck of Dumbassery and Dipshittery thread? There is literally no difference in any of them.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Can a mod just merge all the coronavirus threads into one giant Coronavirus Mega-Trainwreck of Dumbassery and Dipshittery thread? There is literally no difference in any of them.

Agree. Does it go in the lounge or DC?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

Not mine:

Let's do some math.

There are 331 million people in the U.S. The best infectious disease modeling epidemiologists in the world predict that 20%--60% of the population will become infected.

Let's start low end and go with 20% infected. That puts us at 66,200,000 infected. Of that number, approximately 20% will need to be hospitalized. That's 13,240,000 who will need hospital beds. They won't ask get sick at the same time, but they will be in the hospital for 3--4 weeks. Per the American Hospital Association, we have ~950,000 hospital beds in the U. S. And they're 70%--90% full when it's not flu season. So, best case scenario, we have 300,000 hospital beds for 13 million people.

Out of the 20% that need to be hospitalized, 20% of them will need ICU care. That's 2,648,000 people. We have ~100,000 ICU beds and they're 90+% full.

we only have 10K ventilators in reserve too.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Agree. Does it go in the lounge or DC?

I honestly don't think it matters. Romper Room would probably be the most appropriate.

[dirk digler]

Looks like the NBA is going to play the rest of their games without fans

[Chiefspants]

Jesus this thread went off the rails.

Pretty happy with Colorado’s response so far. It’s been here a while (people kept getting it at ski resorts here though no one was diagnosed) but we got our first drive thru clinic up and running in Denver today.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Can a mod just merge all the coronavirus threads into one giant Coronavirus Mega-Trainwreck of Dumbassery and Dipshittery thread? There is literally no difference in any of them.

I've merged a couple into this one and I'm sure there will be more.... I do like the suggested name change for the thread.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

It’s been here a while (people kept getting it at ski resorts here though no one was diagnosed) but we got our first drive thru clinic up and running in Denver today.

And you're not all dead yet?