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saphojunkie · 11:44 AM

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smithandrew051 · 03-06-2019, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

2011&12 are under ranked there ^^^

Guard play holds 2011 back for me. By the end of the year, they were primarily rolling with an inconsistent Tyshawn, Reed, and Morningstar. All nice players at the time, but not a great starting group.

The Morris Twins and T Rob were awesome that year for sure though.

**Buehler445** · 03-06-2019, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

2011&12 are under ranked there ^^^

Was 2012 The year Teahan got all those minutes?

That team was not very good save Taylor, TROB, and McLemore. I am a giant Releford homer, but that team was really not very good.

Taylor and TROB drug that team, kicking and screaming, to a tremendous amount of success. In terms of individual performances, that year was 2 of the best years in Jayhawk history, and I don't give a **** what the stats say.

KC_Connection · 03-06-2019, 11:09 PM

My own aren't too far off:

1. 2008 (only 2015 UK has been better than this team in the 2000s and they actually lost in the final)
2. 2010 (this team should have won the NC and would have in a fair and just world)
3. 2012 (not as good as the 2011 or 2007 teams, but they had so much grit; that KU/MU game is also probably the best sporting event I've ever attended)
4. 2016 (I'm surprised I have a Perry team this high too, but they were really good. Too bad Villanova was better)
5. 2011 (Peak Morris brothers era; this team looked completely unstoppable all season until Shaka Smart got lucky and built his entire coaching career off one win)
6. 2007 (Basically the entire 2008 team that would go on to be one of the best in NCAA history, just with a bit less experience/polish and Julian Wright)
7. 2013 (higher than they probably should be just due to that epic EJ road win at ISU)
8. 2017 (Peak Frank Mason era; there's a reason he was the best player in college basketball this season; just not enough defensive help around him)
9. 2018 (I'm kind of surprised the streak didn't end last year to Texas Tech but these guys peaked at the right time...especially Devonte and Newman)
10. 2009 (Collins/Aldrich will always be tougher than Blake Griffin)
11. 2014 (Embiid was fun for a while)
12. 2015 (As soft as these guys were, give them credit for finding a way to keep the streak up. Nobody was surprised by that WSU loss, though)
13. 2006 (The freshman 2008 group. They were not better than the Longhorns with Aldridge/PJ Tucker but they got rolling at the right time until a pretty brutal draw against Bradley; People often conflate the Bucknell/Bradley losses but Bradley was actually good)
14. 2005 (Easily the weakest Self team until this year's group; Simien/Langford were solid but there's not much else to speak of)

smithandrew051 · 03-06-2019, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Was 2012 The year Teahan got all those minutes?

That team was not very good save Taylor, TROB, and McLemore. I am a giant Releford homer, but that team was really not very good.

Taylor and TROB drug that team, kicking and screaming, to a tremendous amount of success. In terms of individual performances, that year was 2 of the best years in Jayhawk history, and I don't give a **** what the stats say.

McLemore was on the roster in 2012, but both Ben and Traylor were ineligible.

That team was:

Starters:
Tyshawn Taylor
Elijah Johnson
Travis Releford
Thomas Robinson
Jeff Withey

Pretty nice lineup

Bench:
Conner Teahan
Kevin Young
Naadir Tharpe
Justin Wesley

Absolutely atrocious bench

smithandrew051 · 03-06-2019, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

My own aren't too far off:

1. 2008 (only 2015 UK has been better than this team in the 2000s and they actually lost in the final)
2. 2010 (this team should have won the NC and would have in a fair and just world)
3. 2012 (not as good as the 2011 or 2007 teams, but they had so much grit; that KU/MU game is also probably the best sporting event I've ever attended)
4. 2016 (I'm surprised I have a Perry team this high too, but they were really good. Too bad Villanova was better)
5. 2011 (Peak Morris brothers era; this team looked completely unstoppable all season until Shaka Smart got lucky and built his entire coaching career off one win)
6. 2007 (Basically the entire 2008 team that would go on to be one of the best in NCAA history, just with a bit less experience/polish and Julian Wright)
7. 2013 (higher than they probably should be just due to that epic EJ road win at ISU)
8. 2017 (Peak Frank Mason era; there's a reason he was the best player in college basketball this season; just not enough defensive help around him)
9. 2018
10. 2009
11. 2014
12. 2015
13. 2006
14. 2005

Yeah we’re pretty close. The top and bottom are pretty obvious to me.

2015. 2006, and 2005 are the obvious bottom 3. 2006 will always be my favorite of those 3, because they laid the foundation for 2008.

2008 and 2010 are the obvious two best teams. 2010 might be slightly better on paper due to their ridiculous depth, but 2008 was just so good. That season was 3 years in the making.

KC_Connection · 03-06-2019, 11:27 PM

2012 was the year Teahan was like the 6th man and Justin Wesley actually played significant minutes, yeah. Tyshawn/TRob just got them through every important close game.

**Buehler445** · 03-06-2019, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

McLemore was on the roster in 2012, but both Ben and Traylor were ineligible.

That team was:

Starters:
Tyshawn Taylor
Elijah Johnson
Travis Releford
Thomas Robinson
Jeff Withey

Pretty nice lineup

Bench:
Conner Teahan
Kevin Young
Naadir Tharpe
Justin Wesley

Absolutely atrocious bench

**** I forgot McLemore was ineligible. That was a really blah team. They had no business winning shit except TRob and Taylor just willed it into existence.

I will grant that they were a tough out defensively. Releford is one of the best defenders I’ve seen and Withey was filthy.

But Teahan was slower than me and Wesley was dumber than Billay.

Shit. I’m going to have nightmares about how bad that team was. I’m telling you. Taylor and TRob mounted two of the best individual performances in program history.

**BigRedChief** · 03-07-2019, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

My own aren't too far off:

1. 2008 (only 2015 UK has been better than this team in the 2000s and they actually lost in the final)
2. 2010 (this team should have won the NC and would have in a fair and just world)
3. 2012 (not as good as the 2011 or 2007 teams, but they had so much grit; that KU/MU game is also probably the best sporting event I've ever attended)
4. 2016 (I'm surprised I have a Perry team this high too, but they were really good. Too bad Villanova was better)
5. 2011 (Peak Morris brothers era; this team looked completely unstoppable all season until Shaka Smart got lucky and built his entire coaching career off one win)
6. 2007 (Basically the entire 2008 team that would go on to be one of the best in NCAA history, just with a bit less experience/polish and Julian Wright)
7. 2013 (higher than they probably should be just due to that epic EJ road win at ISU)
8. 2017 (Peak Frank Mason era; there's a reason he was the best player in college basketball this season; just not enough defensive help around him)
9. 2018 (I'm kind of surprised the streak didn't end last year to Texas Tech but these guys peaked at the right time...especially Devonte and Newman)
10. 2009 (Collins/Aldrich will always be tougher than Blake Griffin)
11. 2014 (Embiid was fun for a while)
12. 2015 (As soft as these guys were, give them credit for finding a way to keep the streak up. Nobody was surprised by that WSU loss, though)
13. 2006 (The freshman 2008 group. They were not better than the Longhorns with Aldridge/PJ Tucker but they got rolling at the right time until a pretty brutal draw against Bradley; People often conflate the Bucknell/Bradley losses but Bradley was actually good)
14. 2005 (Easily the weakest Self team until this year's group; Simien/Langford were solid but there's not much else to speak of)

Would move some of the middle teams on the list up or down but the top and bottom teams are spot on. Me and KCC agree on something.

RedRaider56 · 03-07-2019, 06:18 AM

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Why not Drew? He has nothing. Got to 10 wins in this league, no home court advantage, nothing. He’s my pick

Loss to OSU last night should kill Drew's COY opportunity.

RaidersOftheCellar · 03-07-2019, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

Odds Shark is on crack...I love KU, but no way our odds of winning the national title are that high. shit, all the games are on the road for Christ's sake.

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Updated odds to win the CBB National Championship:

Duke +210
Gonzaga/Virginia +800
Kentucky +900
UNC/Tennessee +1100
Michigan +1200
Michigan St. +1400
Nevada +2500
Kansas +2800
Texas Tech +3500
Iowa St./LSU/Wisconsin +4000
Houston/Marquette +5000
Auburn/Purdue/Villanova +5500

I think Tech’s odds should be much higher. Other than that, I don’t think it looks terrible.

As mediocre as they can look at times, this KU team is still one of the dozen or so best teams out there.

Prison Bitch · 03-07-2019, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

My own aren't too far off:

1. 2008 (only 2015 UK has been better than this team in the 2000s and they actually lost in the final)
2. 2010 (this team should have won the NC and would have in a fair and just world)
3. 2012 (not as good as the 2011 or 2007 teams, but they had so much grit; that KU/MU game is also probably the best sporting event I've ever attended)
4. 2016 (I'm surprised I have a Perry team this high too, but they were really good. Too bad Villanova was better)
5. 2011 (Peak Morris brothers era; this team looked completely unstoppable all season until Shaka Smart got lucky and built his entire coaching career off one win)
6. 2007 (Basically the entire 2008 team that would go on to be one of the best in NCAA history, just with a bit less experience/polish and Julian Wright)
7. 2013 (higher than they probably should be just due to that epic EJ road win at ISU)
8. 2017 (Peak Frank Mason era; there's a reason he was the best player in college basketball this season; just not enough defensive help around him)
9. 2018 (I'm kind of surprised the streak didn't end last year to Texas Tech but these guys peaked at the right time...especially Devonte and Newman)
10. 2009 (Collins/Aldrich will always be tougher than Blake Griffin)
11. 2014 (Embiid was fun for a while)
12. 2015 (As soft as these guys were, give them credit for finding a way to keep the streak up. Nobody was surprised by that WSU loss, though)
13. 2006 (The freshman 2008 group. They were not better than the Longhorns with Aldridge/PJ Tucker but they got rolling at the right time until a pretty brutal draw against Bradley; People often conflate the Bucknell/Bradley losses but Bradley was actually good)
14. 2005 (Easily the weakest Self team until this year's group; Simien/Langford were solid but there's not much else to speak of)

Mostly this. I’d swap 17 and 16.

Also 2010 wasn’t going to win it all. They were dead even Sagarin with Dook and Kentucky. The latter of which lost in the most incredible fashion, jacking up 4-33 from deep when they had Boogie Cousins. Insane.

Prison Bitch · 03-07-2019, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Guard play holds 2011 back for me. By the end of the year, they were primarily rolling with an inconsistent Tyshawn, Reed, and Morningstar. All nice players at the time, but not a great starting group.

The Morris Twins and T Rob were awesome that year for sure though.

35-2 and just ass-raped Richmond by like 25 the game before. We were going to win the title that year. It was a down year in the sport and we had everything. The VCU game is the one that got away. In my 35 years watching, THAT was the game.

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Was 2012 The year Teahan got all those minutes?

That team was not very good save Taylor, TROB, and McLemore. I am a giant Releford homer, but that team was really not very good.

Taylor and TROB drug that team, kicking and screaming, to a tremendous amount of success. In terms of individual performances, that year was 2 of the best years in Jayhawk history, and I don't give a **** what the stats say.

We played the toughest SoS that year and still went like 32-7. We were impossible to score on as seen in the Tourney where we clamped down on everyone incl KY, who only scored 67 to beat us. (AD was 1-11 from the floor).

In the Sagarin pre-Tourney ratings, we were a 1-pt fave over our regions top seed UNC. Who had an awesome roster. Fave even with healthy Kendall Marshall, who they lost and then we ass-raped em E8 in The Loo. I was there of course

RaidersOftheCellar · 03-07-2019, 09:00 AM

Would be a cool story if Vick returned just in time for a scoring explosion like he had early in the year and carried them to the final 4. But it's pretty clear that ship has sailed.

The most credible sources say that Vick's mom blew up on Self after the K-State game and threatened to pull him off the team if her demands weren't met, and Self called her bluff. There's also a rumor that he was voted off the team. The former seems more likely in the context of what's happened.

**Lzen** · 03-07-2019, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

Odds Shark is on crack...I love KU, but no way our odds of winning the national title are that high. shit, all the games are on the road for Christ's sake.

OddsShark
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10 hours ago

Updated odds to win the CBB National Championship:

Duke +210
Gonzaga/Virginia +800
Kentucky +900
UNC/Tennessee +1100
Michigan +1200
Michigan St. +1400
Nevada +2500
Kansas +2800
Texas Tech +3500
Iowa St./LSU/Wisconsin +4000
Houston/Marquette +5000
Auburn/Purdue/Villanova +5500

Technically, all of the games will be neutral site games, not road games.

But yeah, I wouldn't give KU very high odds. This team just doesn't have it.

**Lzen** · 03-07-2019, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

McLemore was on the roster in 2012, but both Ben and Traylor were ineligible.

That team was:

Starters:
Tyshawn Taylor
Elijah Johnson
Travis Releford
Thomas Robinson
Jeff Withey

Pretty nice lineup

Bench:
Conner Teahan
Kevin Young
Naadir Tharpe
Justin Wesley

Absolutely atrocious bench

Kevin Young was a great bench player, as I recall. The rest, not so much.

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KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $4832783	My own aren't too far off: 1. 2008 (only 2015 UK has been better than this team in the 2000s and they actually lost in the final) 2. 2010 (this team should have won the NC and would have in a fair and just world) 3. 2012 (not as good as the 2011 or 2007 teams, but they had so much grit; that KU/MU game is also probably the best sporting event I've ever attended) 4. 2016 (I'm surprised I have a Perry team this high too, but they were really good. Too bad Villanova was better) 5. 2011 (Peak Morris brothers era; this team looked completely unstoppable all season until Shaka Smart got lucky and built his entire coaching career off one win) 6. 2007 (Basically the entire 2008 team that would go on to be one of the best in NCAA history, just with a bit less experience/polish and Julian Wright) 7. 2013 (higher than they probably should be just due to that epic EJ road win at ISU) 8. 2017 (Peak Frank Mason era; there's a reason he was the best player in college basketball this season; just not enough defensive help around him) 9. 2018 (I'm kind of surprised the streak didn't end last year to Texas Tech but these guys peaked at the right time...especially Devonte and Newman) 10. 2009 (Collins/Aldrich will always be tougher than Blake Griffin) 11. 2014 (Embiid was fun for a while) 12. 2015 (As soft as these guys were, give them credit for finding a way to keep the streak up. Nobody was surprised by that WSU loss, though) 13. 2006 (The freshman 2008 group. They were not better than the Longhorns with Aldridge/PJ Tucker but they got rolling at the right time until a pretty brutal draw against Bradley; People often conflate the Bucknell/Bradley losses but Bradley was actually good) 14. 2005 (Easily the weakest Self team until this year's group; Simien/Langford were solid but there's not much else to speak of) Last edited by KC_Connection; 03-06-2019 at 11:25 PM..
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