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Old 04-29-2009, 12:01 PM  
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Toronto Blue Jays @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (4/29)








Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
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TOR (15-8) 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0
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KC (11-10) 0 1 3 2 4 1 0 0 X
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Zack Greinke is the first pitcher to win 5 games in April in Royals franchise history

Zack Greinke is the MLB Win leader and the AL strikeout leader



Loss, (1-1) Brian Tallet 4IP 10R 10ER 3BB 2K
Shawn Camp 2IP 1R 1ER 0BB 0K
Jason Frasor 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K
Bill Murphy 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

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Win, (5-0) Zack Greinke 7IP 2R 2ER 2BB 8K
Jamey Wright 1IP 1R 0ER 0BB 1K
Juan Cruz 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

Starting Lineups

TOR

1. Marco Scutaro, SS
1. John McDonald, SS
2. Aaron Hill, 2B
3. Alex Rios, RF
4. Vernon Wells, CF
4. Jose Bautista, CF
5. Adam Lind, DH
6. Scott Rolen, 3B
7. Lyle Overbay, 1B
8. Rod Barajas, C
9. Travis Snider, LF

KC

1. Coco Crisp, CF
1. David DeJesus, RF
2. Willie Bloomquist, LF
3. Mark Teahen, 3B
4. Jose Guillen, RF
4. Mitch Maier, RF/CF
5. Billy Butler, 1B
6. Mike Jacobs, DH
7. Alberto Callaspo, 2B
8. Mike Aviles, SS
8. Tony Pena Jr, ph/SS
9. Miguel Olivo, C

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Old 04-29-2009, 08:01 PM   #196
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:01 PM   #197
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UGH!!!! Dude, Teahen and Guillen were more than obviously trying to get the ball up and to the outfield for the SAC fly.

Yes, I do understand a runner can score from 2nd. That is not the point so quit.


Your argument is full of holes cause you are assuming the 2 guys who popped out would have taken the same approach had the runner situation been different.

And if you know all about situational hitting, nevermind I played baseball for 10 year, you know I am speaking the truth.
Are you ****ing kidding me?

The reason the logic was flawed was the same reason it wasn't the right call to have Crisp bunt last night with runners on first and second. It flies in the face of the numbers.
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Are you ****ing kidding me?

The reason the logic was flawed was the same reason it wasn't the right call to have Crisp bunt last night with runners on first and second. It flies in the face of the numbers.
And I said typically I would agree with you except it was Bloomquist at the plate. You are just as well having him put a bunt down as letting him swing away. In fact you have a better chance of moving the runner with him bunting.

While your numbers in general are right, you are not taking into account who is at the plate.

Last night's call, while not the best call, would have been fine had the bunt went down the 1st base line and not to the 3rd base side.
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5th inning

Top 5th

Snider strikes out (swinging)
Scutaro flies out to right
Hill singles to left
Rios strikes out (swinging)

0 runs, 1 hit

Bottom 5th

Butler homers to left
Jacobs walks
Callaspo doubles to right, Jacobs to third
Aviles triples to right, Callaspo and JAcobs scores

Shawn Camp relieves Tallet

Olivo grounds out to shortstop
Aviles scores on a Passed Ball
Crisp doubles to left
Bloomquist grounds out to pitcher
Teahen grounds out to first 3-1

4 runs, 4 hits
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I knew we needed that rainout. Hopefully there will be one tomorrow I guess...
I could go for that. Davies facing the Jays isn't my idea of a good match up right now.
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And I said typically I would agree with you except it was Bloomquist at the plate. You are just as well having him put a bunt down as letting him swing away. In fact you have a better chance of moving the runner with him bunting.

While your numbers in general are right, you are not taking into account who is at the plate.

Last night's call, while not the best call, would have been fine had the bunt went down the 1st base line and not to the 3rd base side.
http://books.google.com/books?id=1s7...esult&resnum=1

Runner on 1st and 0 out = 43 percent chance of scoring
Runner on 2nd and 0 out = 60 percent chance of scoring
Runner on 3rd and 1 out = 54 percent chance of scoring

"This decrease in scoring percentages makes sacrifice bunting the runner to third base extremely questionable if the batter is a decent hitter."

Bloomquist is hitting 2nd. By virtue of putting him in this spot, Hillman is implicitly saying WB handles the bat well and is a "decent" hitter.

But please, continue to tell me that I'm wrong. It's simple math. And Hillman doesn't know what the **** he is doing.
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