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kcbubb · 12:09 AM

I never wanted Pioli or Haley and I would love to see Cowher in KC. Is it possible?

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Hali is as good a pass rusher as most of the olbs NE had playing behind Ty and Dick. That leaves one, and if we decide to draft a good one, he will have a chance at excelling now BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOOD 5TEC!

Hali IS NOT special. I'm really ****ing sick of people proclaiming him to be ANYTHING other than average at best. I know this will bring out the wrath of TheGuardian and Senseless****ingChiefsFan, but the bottom line is that the guy is NOTHING special.

And you're missing the part about NE having a monster secondary. While their outside linebackers weren't beasts on the scale of Abraham, Porter or Harrison, they were very solid, consistent players.

The Chiefs need to fill ALL four linebacking spots, both safety spots AND their NT position to even begin to be compared to the Patriots defense.

And even then, the Patriots weren't in the same league as other 3-4 defenses such as Baltimore or Pittsburgh. That's another level entirely.

**BossChief** · 11-02-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ct

What sense does it make to hire a man then expect him to continue with a program that is not his? and furthermore a program that was very clearly not working?

Just because YOU have no belief in starting over when YOU felt we were close, means zilch to the man in charge.

...dont let facts cloud Mr McClouds arguement!

He seems to not realize we broke the nfl record for dline futility last year.

no sacks (nfl record low 10)
horrible rush defense (our safeties were our top and third leading tacklers)

LOL

"The foundation was already in place"

You crack me up Dane!

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

...dont let facts cloud Mr McClouds arguement!

He seems to not realize we broke the nfl record for dline futility last year.

no sacks (nfl record low 10)
horrible rush defense (our safeties were our top and third leading tacklers)

LOL

"The foundation was already in place"

You crack me up Dane!

You're a ****ing moron. Seriously.

Tank & Turk are playing elsewhere in the NFL. Dorsey's again playing out of position. The cornerbacks are solid. Pollard was solid (and is solid in Texas).

The Chiefs needed a monster linebacker like Maualuga, another OLB and a pass rushing RDE. They weren't far away from being a solid unit, Assface.

Now, they need FOUR linebackers, TWO safeties and Nose Tackle.

That should only take three or four years.

Dummy.

TheGuardian · 11-02-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Hali IS NOT special. I'm really ****ing sick of people proclaiming him to be ANYTHING other than average at best. I know this will bring out the wrath of TheGuardian and Senseless****ingChiefsFan, but the bottom line is that the guy is NOTHING special.

And you're missing the part about NE having a monster secondary. While their outside linebackers weren't beasts on the scale of Abraham, Porter or Harrison, they were very solid, consistent players.

The Chiefs need to fill ALL four linebacking spots, both safety spots AND their NT position to even begin to be compared to the Patriots defense.

And even then, the Patriots weren't in the same league as other 3-4 defenses such as Baltimore or Pittsburgh. That's another level entirely.

It's not going to bring out my "wrath". All I've ever said about the guy is that he's a solid player. We don't need to be looking to replace Hali if that is what you are getting at. We have a lot of problems, he's not one of them.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-02-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It has nothing to do with the W's and L's. The problem stems from the myopic dipshittery of the regime, thinking that because players came from NE, Miami, Dallas, or Az that they are the only worthwhile NFL players. Compound that with the belief that the 3-4 is the only defense to run, and you have rampant one who sucks the penisy and ineffectiveness which belies itself in the weekly performance.

BURN!

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I agree 100%

BUT

take into consideration that Pioli is working off information by HERMS SCOUTS.

No they're not. Those guys were fired months ago.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

It's not going to bring out my "wrath". All I've ever said about the guy is that he's a solid player. We don't need to be looking to replace Hali if that is what you are getting at. We have a lot of problems, he's not one of them.

Well, that, I agree with.

He's the only member of the linebacking corp that doesn't need to be immediately replaced. I'd imagine that he'll be on the squad for at least 2 more years as a starter, if not three.

**BossChief** · 11-02-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Hali IS NOT special. I'm really ****ing sick of people proclaiming him to be ANYTHING other than average at best. I know this will bring out the wrath of TheGuardian and Senseless****ingChiefsFan, but the bottom line is that the guy is NOTHING special.

And you're missing the part about NE having a monster secondary. While their outside linebackers weren't beasts on the scale of Abraham, Porter or Harrison, they were very solid, consistent players.

The Chiefs need to fill ALL four linebacking spots, both safety spots AND their NT position to even begin to be compared to the Patriots defense.

And even then, the Patriots weren't in the same league as other 3-4 defenses such as Baltimore or Pittsburgh. That's another level entirely.

I never said he was more than average. Never have, he isnt. He isnt bad enough that he is any kind of priority to replace either.

Just more of you putting words in someones mouth to feel important.

One of our safeties will stick, and not necessarily either starter, but we could definitely use a star, playmaking safety to help the weak link that has been the chink in the armour of the secondary so far.

IMO we need three lbers (one being a star pass rusher), one safety (playmaking variety) and a dominant nose to have a chance at consistently hold teams to 20 or less week in and week out.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

take into consideration that Pioli is working off information by HERMS SCOUTS.

This is another horseshit statement that you failed to address.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I never said he was more than average. Never have, he isnt. He isnt bad enough that he is any kind of priority to replace either.

Just more of you putting words in someones mouth to feel important.

Oh, **** off.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

One of our safeties will stick, and not necessarily either starter, but we could definitely use a star, playmaking safety to help the weak link that has been the chink in the armour of the secondary so far.

Is this English? Is English your first language or second? Because I don't even know what you're attempting to state.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

IMO we need three lbers (one being a star pass rusher), one safety (playmaking variety) and a dominant nose to have a chance at consistently hold teams to 20 or less week in and week out.

Yay! So the Chiefs only THREE playmakers: An OLB, a safety and a MONSTER nose tackle to hold a team UNDER 20.

Yeah, those guys grow on trees and are available each and every year.

**BossChief** · 11-02-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're a ****ing moron. Seriously.

Tank & Turk are playing elsewhere in the NFL. Dorsey's again playing out of position. The cornerbacks are solid. Pollard was solid (and is solid in Texas).

The Chiefs needed a monster linebacker like Maualuga, another OLB and a pass rushing RDE. They weren't far away from being a solid unit, Assface.

Now, they need FOUR linebackers, TWO safeties and Nose Tackle.

That should only take three or four years.

Dummy.

this is just classic

From what you saw last year, you think we only needed 2 linebackers and a end? Really???

and you are the one with "rainbows and unicorns" in your sig and then you post this kinda stuff.

Keep going its great!!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-02-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This HAS to be a joke.

Two players that Miami were going to cut for their FIRST cutdowns, not their second. An offensive tackle who didn't even have a profile on NFL.com! He sucked at tackle and was moved to guard.

Two players from Miami who said to the press, "what did they get for us; some chewing gum and toenail clippings"?
Two players who belittled their own trade value!

PIOLI!

**BossChief** · 11-02-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

No they're not. Those guys were fired months ago.

we were talking about the draft and udfas along with first cuts at the time.

take it out of context though, be my guest

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-02-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

this is just classic

From what you saw last year, you think we only needed 2 linebackers and a end? Really???

and you are the one with "rainbows and unicorns" in your sig and then you post this kinda stuff.

Keep going its great!!

You're a ****ing idiot. Seriously. If the Chiefs had kept Jared Allen, do you really think they'd have performed so poorly last year?

I really don't think you know a ****ing thing about the NFL.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-02-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

we were talking about the draft and udfas along with first cuts at the time.

take it out of context though, be my guest

Ah. Next time try "they were" instead of "they are".

**BossChief** · 11-02-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Oh, **** off.

Is this English? Is English your first language or second? Because I don't even know what you're attempting to state.

Yay! So the Chiefs only THREE playmakers: An OLB, a safety and a MONSTER nose tackle to hold a team UNDER 20.

Yeah, those guys grow on trees and are available each and every year.

let me help you:

I think out of McGraw/Morgan/Page one of them will stick as a starter for a few years here.

There ya go, its in crayon so it makes it easier for you! Is that better?

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