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Old 09-01-2012, 01:24 PM  
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Worried: Someone tell me why we won't get murdered by Atlanta.
Our D might well end up a good one as the season progresses. But I'm very very worried about the first game. Not just to lose, but to lose discouragingly big.

1- Our DL while solid has not shown signs of wreaking havoc in the opponents' backfield. Yes I'm told that's the style of 34 Romeo plays. But wait....

2- Without Tamba Hali Ryan will have all day to throw, especially considering point 1.

3- The thought of Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Gonzo, against our depleted secondary stresses me to almost puking.

This is gonna be one of those games when we see passes completed against our D with scary consistency. The only way we have any chance to win this is if we can manage long time consuming run heavy drives that would keep the Atlanta O on the bench for the majority of the game. Maybe that's why Daboll was emphasizing the run in the last preseason game so much.

Tell me something hopeful.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:42 PM   #196
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He was still taken too high.

If you spend a 2nd on a CB he should be starting material.

Arenas ain't.

We got a 4th round value in the 2nd.

Yahooty.
You do know that this IS a passing league, right?

You need talent at the 5th DB, right?
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:42 PM   #197
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:43 PM   #198
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No, I enjoy our discussions.

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:46 PM   #199
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**** that.

I want to see gifd up
So you expect to win?
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:47 PM   #200
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No, I enjoy our discussions.

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
A top 5 returner and one of the better nickel cover corners as well as an effective Blitzer isn't worth a mid-late second rounder in today's NFL?

Answer: yes, it is.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:47 PM   #201
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No, I enjoy our discussions.

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
You are completely ****ing clueless on this.

You need a solid 5th CB, and we have one.

A second is NOT too high for his purpose.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:48 PM   #202
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So you expect to win?
I think we have a much better chance of winning than most here do.

We need Cassel to play like he did against Seattle in 2010, though.
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You are completely ****ing clueless on this.

You need a solid 5th CB, and we have one.

A second is NOT too high for his purpose.
5th CB huh? Did you mean nickel?
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I think we have a much better chance of winning than most here do.

We need Cassel to play like he did against Seattle in 2010, though.
I agree but if we win, I give a shit about giffed up. Clay can be gone.
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5th CB huh? Did you mean nickel?
I meant DB
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I meant DB
Gotcha. How a guy who plays pretty much every time there are 3 WR on the field can be treated like a ST player is beyond me. To some here he is just a return guy.
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Gotcha. How a guy who plays pretty much every time there are 3 WR on the field can be treated like a ST player is beyond me. To some here he is just a return guy.
Clay is trolling his using Pioli hate. He HAS to know the value of a solid nickel vs todays passing game.

I'm no fan of Scott's, but that's because of Cassel.
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Old 09-03-2012, 03:04 PM   #208
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No, I enjoy our discussions.

Arenas is not crappy. He is a solid nickel back. But he was definitely not worth that 2nd round pick.

It's a criticism of Pioli, not Arenas.
To be fair, he was valued for his return abilities as well. I agree, we could have gotten him in the 3rd (maybe not 4th) but he was valued both as a DB and a returner.
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I agree but if we win, I give a shit about giffed up. Clay can be gone.
Clay is undervalued around here the same way he undervalues Arenas.
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