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Old 09-23-2013, 11:22 AM  
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Rumors: cleveland looks to trade more players: Josh Gordon

Josh Gordon Trade Rumors: Latest Buzz and Speculation Surrounding Browns WR
BY JOSEPH ZUCKER
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ON SEPTEMBER 22, 2013


Andrew Weber-USA TODAY Sports
The Cleveland Browns' fire sale may yet continue as the team has reportedly made wide receiver Josh Gordon available.


According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Browns are willing to part with Gordon along with fellow wide receiver Greg Little:


ESPN's Adam Caplan adds that Gordon has actually been on the trade block for "several weeks":


Gordon is returning to the field in Week 3 after serving a two-game suspension at the start of the regular season, following a violation of the league's substance-abuse policy. He came into the season with some lofty expectations after his rookie year, in which he caught 50 passes for 805 yards and five touchdowns.

This news is exactly what Browns fans won't want to hear. It comes the same week as Cleveland essentially gave up on the 2013 season just two weeks into the season, first naming Brian Hoyer the starting quarterback over the banged-up Brandon Weeden and backup Jason Campbell, and then trading Trent Richardson to the Indianapolis Colts.

For a fanbase as tortured as the Browns' it will hurt to see yet another talented offensive player be pushed out the door.

Only 22 years old, Gordon will continue to improve, and he's the kind of player a team can build a receiving corps around. The fact that Cleveland is thinking about offoading him is arguably more surprising than the Richardson trade.

However, if Cleveland is really in rebuild mode, it would make sense to cash in now on its most marketable asset and prepare for the future. The trio of Joe Banner, Michael Lombardi and Rob Chudzinski have a definite direction they're taking this team. They're not afraid to burn some bridges in the short term if it helps the long term, either.

Only time will tell if the plan works out.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:27 PM   #196
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The fact that if he's busted by the league for violating policy, he's suspended for a year.
Same could have been said of Jared Allen.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:29 PM   #197
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Same could have been said of Jared Allen.
Jared Allen wasn't 22 years old.

Jared Allen's problem wasn't weed, it was alcohol.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:30 PM   #198
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Well, I bet they'd take a 2nd.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:32 PM   #199
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Well, I bet they'd take a 2nd.
Of course they would but no one's foolish enough to offer a second round pick for a guy that's more likely than not to end up suspended for a year.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:33 PM   #200
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Jared Allen wasn't 22 years old.

Jared Allen's problem wasn't weed, it was alcohol.
He was still in danger of a season suspension wasn't he?
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:37 PM   #201
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He was still in danger of a season suspension wasn't he?
In danger? Yes. But in addition to the fact that Allen was 26 years old when traded, he had 72 million reasons to say sober.

Gordon has no such incentive.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:38 PM   #202
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He was still in danger of a season suspension wasn't he?
Don't use logic here... He won't understand it.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:51 PM   #203
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I'd give up a 1st for Josh Gordon.
That's what its going to take. Its he only way that he will be able to justify it to us fans. we know how good josh is.
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suspension stuff drops the price at least a round or 2


2nd round pick drops to a 3rd or 4th imo


Chiefs using a 4th would be ok
Good luck with that. Yeah, hes a second round pick. Except, if he had been in a REGULAR draft, and not in the supplemental, he would of been a first round pick EASY.
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Well, I bet they'd take a 2nd.
No they wont. A first round pick is the only way. Its the position of strength for the Browns. A 22 year old game changer.

Great hands, big fast, great route runner.......

Lombardi would sell him for a first. I would too.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:59 PM   #204
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That's what its going to take. Its he only way that he will be able to justify it to us fans. we know how good josh is.

Good luck with that. Yeah, hes a second round pick. Except, if he had been in a REGULAR draft, and not in the supplemental, he would of been a first round pick EASY.


No they wont. A first round pick is the only way. Its the position of strength for the Browns. A 22 year old game changer.

Great hands, big fast, great route runner.......

Lombardi would sell him for a first. I would too.
1. Hes not an ace special teams gunner.
2. See previously mentioned suspension issues.
3 working against my argument-vikes got a 1st for harvin who is arguably the biggest game changer in the league, with more missed tackles in less games than anyone last season. But he didnt have these suspension issues.
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:07 PM   #205
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Well considering we will be out of position to get a premier receiver like Lee or Watkins.. I'm not so against overpaying for Gordon. Yes it is a risk with his character concerns but I think it is worth it. He's on his rookie contract for what 2 more years? Our only other option would be someone like Maclin who is not going to come cheap
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:10 PM   #206
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That's what its going to take. Its he only way that he will be able to justify it to us fans. we know how good josh is.

Good luck with that. Yeah, hes a second round pick. Except, if he had been in a REGULAR draft, and not in the supplemental, he would of been a first round pick EASY.


No they wont. A first round pick is the only way. Its the position of strength for the Browns. A 22 year old game changer.

Great hands, big fast, great route runner.......

Lombardi would sell him for a first. I would too.
You're hilarious.

Draft RB third overall, sell him for late first. Yeah, Lombardi is a hardline negotiating GENIUS.
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Old 09-23-2013, 07:13 PM   #207
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A first round pick to get a guy that would help our terrible offense in a year that seems like if we can score 20 plus points per game that we could win a super bowl. I'd give a first for this guy and not even think twice about it.
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You're hilarious.

Draft RB third overall, sell him for late first. Yeah, Lombardi is a hardline negotiating GENIUS.
Every one in the league was STUNNED that he got a first for him.

While I was irritated to say the least that they did trade him, but getting a first for a guy who was averaging 3.6 yards per carry?

Sorry, Lombardi won that trade. especially when you figure out that honestly, I don't think he is that much better than Ahmad Bradshaw.


Also Trent Richardson was not a Lombardi pick, and Lombardi hated the pick.
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Don't use logic here... He won't understand it.
You're a ****ing moron.

Are you telling us that Jared Allen's situation is exactly the same as Gordon's?

Did Jared Allen enter the NFL on probation? Did Jared Allen miss two games for violating the leagues substance policy his rookie season?

Shut the **** up, Dumbass.
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You're a ****ing moron.

Are you telling us that Jared Allen's situation is exactly the same as Gordon's?

Did Jared Allen enter the NFL on probation? Did Jared Allen miss two games for violating the leagues substance policy his rookie season?

Shut the **** up, Dumbass.
You have the biggest anger issues I have ever witnessed. It's pathetic. Enjoy that heart attack you'll give yourself, no one will miss you.
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