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Old 06-15-2015, 08:00 PM   #1
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Lol. Voting for that cop that killed that guy in SC would be the equivalent of voting for Infante
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:06 PM   #2
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What's ironic is that Donaldson's votes have skyrocketed in the last week while his offensive numbers have plummeted. In his last 10 games he's batting .150 (6 for 40) with 0 HR, 1 RBI, and 15 strikeouts. Meanwhile, Moustakas has batted .378 (14 for 37) with 1 HR, 8 RBI, and 4 strikeouts.

So, while all of Canada complains that Moustakas' lead is unfair, the gap between the two players is slowly but surely diminishing. Sure, Donaldson has more home runs, but overall their numbers aren't that far apart.

Donaldson: .298/.358/.540
Moustakas: .327/.379/.468

Combine that with the star power he earned during the postseason last year, and I have no problem voting for Moustakas.
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:09 PM   #3
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What's ironic is that Donaldson's votes have skyrocketed in the last week while his offensive numbers have plummeted. In his last 10 games he's batting .150 (6 for 40) with 0 HR, 1 RBI, and 15 strikeouts. Meanwhile, Moustakas has batted .378 (14 for 37) with 1 HR, 8 RBI, and 4 strikeouts.

So, while all of Canada complains that Moustakas' lead is unfair, the gap between the two players is slowly but surely diminishing. Sure, Donaldson has more home runs, but overall their numbers aren't that far apart.

Donaldson: .298/.358/.540
Moustakas: .327/.379/.468

Combine that with the star power he earned during the postseason last year, and I have no problem voting for Moustakas.
Donaldson fWAR: 3.8
Moustakas fWAR: 2.2

So, if you're fine voting for Moustakas over Donaldson you are equally OK with voting Luis Valbuena in over Moustakas?
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Old 06-24-2015, 12:30 PM   #4
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Donaldson fWAR: 3.8
Moustakas fWAR: 2.2

So, if you're fine voting for Moustakas over Donaldson you are equally OK with voting Luis Valbuena in over Moustakas?
Oh, yeah. I forgot fWAR was the one and only meaningful statistic out there. My bad.
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:43 PM   #5
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Oh, yeah. I forgot fWAR was the one and only meaningful statistic out there. My bad.
Donaldson's wRC is higher, his wOBA is higher, his baserunning metrics are higher, and his defensive rating is higher.
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Old 06-24-2015, 05:06 PM   #6
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Donaldson's wRC is higher, his wOBA is higher, his baserunning metrics are higher, and his defensive rating is higher.
That's wonderful.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:16 PM   #9
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The average fan doesn't know or give a shit about WAR stats.
This. Who ever thinks that average fans should be looking up advanced statistics for players to vote them into the All Star Game is bat shit crazy.
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Old 06-24-2015, 09:32 PM   #10
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This. Who ever thinks that average fans should be looking up advanced statistics for players to vote them into the All Star Game is bat shit crazy.
That's what I've been trying to tell him. The only stats listed on the ballot are AB, AVG, HR, RBI, and SB. Do you honestly think every fan in the country is looking up fWAR, wRC, and wOBA to ensure they are properly picking each position?
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That's what I've been trying to tell him. The only stats listed on the ballot are AB, AVG, HR, RBI, and SB. Do you honestly think every fan in the country is looking up fWAR, wRC, and wOBA to ensure they are properly picking each position?
So, because fans are stupid and ill-informed we should just accept their stupidity.

Obviously, that has always happened on this website with sports takes, where everyone is given a participation ribbon for posting a point of view, no matter how inane or idiotic.

DeMarco Murray had better counting stats than Jamaal Charles last year. Must mean he's a better back.
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So, because fans are stupid and ill-informed we should just accept their stupidity.

Obviously, that has always happened on this website with sports takes, where everyone is given a participation ribbon for posting a point of view, no matter how inane or idiotic.

DeMarco Murray had better counting stats than Jamaal Charles last year. Must mean he's a better back.
Don't blame the fans. Blame the ballot.
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If this world were just, Donaldson should have been voted to start in the 2014 ALDS, 2014 ALCS and 2014 World Series ahead of Moustakas.

I mean they both started in the 2014 AL Wild Card game, did they not?

Can somebody explain this?
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If this world were just, Donaldson should have been voted to start in the 2014 ALDS, 2014 ALCS and 2014 World Series ahead of Moustakas.

I mean they both started in the 2014 AL Wild Card game, did they not?

Can somebody explain this?
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