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Old 08-13-2016, 06:06 PM  
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From a guy who wasn't able to watch today... what was good/bad?
Summarize the game for me in only the way Chiefs Planet can. I don't want to read what the paid homer BJ Kissel or anyone on Arrowhead Pride has to say.
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Old 08-15-2016, 09:58 AM   #196
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Edelman?
I disagree, but I did say "arguably". If you don't think Balwdin is arguably the best, you haven't watched him enough.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:00 AM   #197
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A quick Google search and I found this:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/top...s-this-season/
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:00 AM   #198
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I disagree, but I did say "arguably". If you don't think Balwdin is arguably the best, you haven't watched him enough.
If you don't think edelman is better, you haven't watched him enough
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Lulz at freaking out over a very good WR getting a few short catches. Typical CP
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And that was before his ridiculous second half of the season.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:02 AM   #201
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I forgot about cobb. I'd probably take him over Baldwin in the slot, but Baldwin can play outside too so he's more rounded.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:02 AM   #202
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Lulz at freaking out over a very good WR getting a few short catches. Typical CP
Oh sorry..

Chiefs are loaded and it's all rigged
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If you don't think edelman is better, you haven't watched him enough
Edelman is very good. One of the best, but he's not better than Baldwin. Sorry.
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I forgot about cobb. I'd probably take him over Baldwin in the slot, but Baldwin can play outside too so he's more rounded.
Cobb?

He was exposed big time last year. He's too 5, but Baldwin is clearly better. Baldwin would've been able to handle #1 duties (in terms of targets) with Rodgers at QB. Cobb couldn't.
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Jesus you guys - that is the whole point.

If Ford can only be pegged to play the weak side because all he can do is rush the passer but nothing else, then he is a waste. Why? Younger, cheaper, players already on the roster are demonstrating they can bring what Ford brings and have arguably shown more versatility and dependability to their game.

Someone argued all Hali does is rush, so why can't Ford? Tamba has way more tools in the box than Ford, has improved his run defense enormously over the years, is arguably the best leader on the team and has a work ethic like no other. This apparently has yet to rub off on Ford.

Can't cut or trade the guy because of dead money, but Dorsey/Reid are under no obligation to play him if his uninspired play continues.
So evidently you missed the whole point.

The reason Hali can do that and Ford can't is Hali plays a different position than Ford. If Ford continues to play the strong side, he can't just pin his ears back.

And you keep saying we have younger, more effective guys than Ford - who? Nicolas beat the hell out of third stringers and did so, again, on the weak side where that was his only responsibility and he didn't have an extra blocker to shed.

I'm not saying Nicolas can't beat him out, but I'm saying that we need an apples to apples comparison. I guarantee you that Nicolas will get his ass kicked on the strong side and the reasons are pretty obvious. He's smaller and hasn't played a lot of 3-4 OLB. He'll have trouble in space just as Ford did. He'll have issues getting washed out when there's an extra blocker on his side just as Ford does.

And physically Moses can't compare to Ford. Put him on the strong side and he might be smart enough to do a credible job. Put him on the weak side and he'll be a guy that's always a step short of finishing the job.
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You probably also say they get gashed when giving up 280 yards and 16 points
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Cobb?

He was exposed big time last year. He's too 5, but Baldwin is clearly better. Baldwin would've been able to handle #1 duties (in terms of targets) with Rodgers at QB. Cobb couldn't.
I don't really consider baldwin a slot wr anymore, he plays outside alot more the past few.

Which is good for him and the seahawks.

It was a tough matchup for nelson, but mainly because it showcases his weaknesses. I worry that we see alot of that if he's asked to play alot of slot or nickel corner against guys like Emmanuel Sanders, baldwin etc.
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You probably also say they get gashed when giving up 280 yards and 16 points
If they give up 280 yards rushing? Yeah, that's pretty gashed
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I don't really consider baldwin a slot wr anymore, he plays outside alot more the past few.

Which is good for him and the seahawks.

It was a tough matchup for nelson, but mainly because it showcases his weaknesses. I worry that we see alot of that if he's asked to play alot of slot or nickel corner against guys like Emmanuel Sanders, baldwin etc.
Did you even read the article I posted? He was third in "slot receptions" in the middle of the season. He is a slot WR, that occasionally lines up outside. Sanders rarely lines up in the slot. We likely won't see Nelson go up against a guy of Baldwin's caliber till the playoffs when he has a lot more experience under his belt.
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